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« on: August 16, 2008, 06:02:46 PM »
Trying to watch some Olympic highlights on the NBC site, i found the Mac browser plug-in choices were all Intel only. This is how it started with OS9. The browsers are the first to go.
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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2008, 06:32:03 PM »
Just went to NBC website and tried to download an Olympic Video.  This is the message I was given.

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Sorry, NBC Direct currently requires Windows XP (Service Pack 2) or Windows Media Center Edition or Windows Vista.

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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2008, 09:20:32 PM »
IMO, it's just a temporary bump in the road - there is simply too large an installed base of PPC Mac users at this time for everyone to ignore.  

I predict that w/in six months, either Apple, some of the other big players such as Adobe, or the Open Source community will ante-up w/ workable solutions.

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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2008, 11:49:13 PM »
Another "win only" issue are all those extras on DVD's ... bugs me to no end.  dry.gif  mad.gif
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« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2008, 10:09:30 AM »
KBear,


I wouldn't count on that.

Steve
« Last Edit: August 17, 2008, 10:10:17 AM by swhitset »
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« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2008, 05:13:00 PM »
could you please leave a link to the failed sites? I am able to view the olympics on firefox OS 10.3 panther and download files.
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« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2008, 05:30:09 PM »
Don't really care about watching the Olympics on the computer, intel or no. But in order to do that, one must install a Microsoft plugin. That plugin is not only intel only but is still a beta app. That's two strikes, as far as I'm concerned. wink.gif

BTW, the NBC link is <http://www.nbcolympics.com/>
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« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2008, 08:20:14 PM »
From Wikipedia:


Planned obsolescence is the process of a product becoming obsolete and/or non-functional after a certain period or amount of use in a way that is planned or designed by the manufacturer. Planned obsolescence has potential benefits for a producer because the product fails and the consumer is under pressure to purchase again, whether from the same manufacturer (a replacement part or a newer model), or from a competitor which might also rely on planned obsolescence.

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« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2008, 01:09:50 AM »
NBC is aligned with Microsoft and is doing little or nothing to accommodate Mac users, period.

There are many forums that have posts about how restrictive those NBC Olympic videos are.  They give you a message that you don't have the correct browser, system, etc.
You can get around that by using the ability built in to some browsers to simulate another OS and browser.
However you then are told to download a windows only viewer, which you can also refuse.

Once you jump through all those hoops, you have to select your local cable company so they can 'connect' you.  However if  your cable company did not PAY NBC to transmit those videos you are still out of luck.

I'm on Optonline (Cablevision) and they did not pay the tariff that NBC demanded so I can't see the videos no matter what computer I'm on.

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« Last Edit: August 18, 2008, 01:10:40 AM by krissel »
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« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2008, 01:25:53 AM »
QUOTE(swhitset @ Aug 17 2008, 10:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
KBear, I wouldn't count on that.
Not counting, just prognosticating. toothgrin.gif
QUOTE(Xairbusdriver @ Aug 17 2008, 05:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't really care about watching the Olympics
That's me. K coolio.gif
« Last Edit: August 18, 2008, 01:27:07 AM by kbeartx »
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« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2008, 11:37:04 AM »
From the NBC site:

Video is currently supported on the following browsers:
Internet Explorer 6, 7 for Windows
(Vista, XP SP2 or greater and 2003)
Firefox 1.5, 2, 3 for Windows
(Vista, XP SP2 or greater and 2003)
Firefox 1.5, 2, 3 for Mac
(OS 10.4.8 or greater, Intel only)
Safari 2 & 3 for Mac
(OS 10.4.8 or greater, Intel only)

I truly wouldn't count on or even predict that NBC will ever bother supporting PPC. Even Apple isn't going to continue supporting PPC for much longer...

It's an interesting contrast to the CBC - where you can view on-demand video of just about every sport - they're using Flash. Of course, there may be a someone Canadian slant to things! wink.gif

Check it out at http://www.cbc.ca/olympics/ondemand/ if you're interested.
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« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2008, 03:54:37 PM »
Apple won't support PPC much longer? Does that mean all non-Intels? I guess that was my point but it's tough seeing it out that way.
My flat screen iMac is still pretty peppy, or at least it was until Leopard came along. That was the first salvo, i guess.

The MSNBC angle is interesting. Ive heard Verizon cable won't carry that network.
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« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2008, 05:13:41 PM »
Well, 10.6 will be Intel-only, so I think the writing is on the wall. tongue.gif Note: the 10.6 release is supposed to be largely a speed-bump for the Intel machines, and a stable, Intel-only release for developers to use, rather than a feature-laden whizz-bang update of the OS, so we probably won't be sitting here drooling until perhaps 10.7...which could easily be 3.5 to 4 years after the switch to Intel.

I have a 2.5MHz dual-processor G5, so I feel your pain. I've always kept up with new releases, though sometimes waiting until the first revision to actually install them, depending on the seriousness of the inevitable howls of complaint from the bleeding-edge-at-all-costs types. Out of 7 machines, we have only ONE Intel machine in the house at the moment - my MacBook Pro. Other than that: 2 G5s, one G4, two Powerbook G4s and one Powerbook G3.

My G5, at 4 years of age, is still performing very well indeed, so I don't anticipate buying anything new any time soon. Guess we'll just have to see whether 10.7 is truly astounding - and whether the new hardware over the next year or two is equally amazing.

Probably the biggest thing will be if Adobe and others go Intel-only with their software. And the writing is on the wall there too:

http://blogs.adobe.com/keyframes/2008/08/a...ac_powerpc.html

However, not ALL CS4 releases are Intel-only; Dreamweaver and Fireworks are universal binaries (see betas: http://labs.adobe.com/ ) Not sure yet about Photoshop, but suspect that since it isn't a 64-bit release, it may still be a universal binary as well.
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« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2008, 01:18:09 AM »
QUOTE(Paddy @ Aug 18 2008, 12:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
From the NBC site:

Video is currently supported on the following browsers:
Internet Explorer 6, 7 for Windows
(Vista, XP SP2 or greater and 2003)
Firefox 1.5, 2, 3 for Windows
(Vista, XP SP2 or greater and 2003)
Firefox 1.5, 2, 3 for Mac
(OS 10.4.8 or greater, Intel only)
Safari 2 & 3 for Mac
(OS 10.4.8 or greater, Intel only)

I truly wouldn't count on or even predict that NBC will ever bother supporting PPC. Even Apple isn't going to continue supporting PPC for much longer...

It's an interesting contrast to the CBC - where you can view on-demand video of just about every sport - they're using Flash. Of course, there may be a someone Canadian slant to things! wink.gif

Check it out at http://www.cbc.ca/olympics/ondemand/ if you're interested.



Well...... it works for me...... wink.gif
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« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2008, 04:31:59 AM »
Yes, you can get past all the 'qualifications' put up by NBC even on a PPC. I finally figured out how but it still wouldn't get me the videos since my cable company didn't pay them.

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