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« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2008, 01:20:52 PM »
QUOTE(Highmac @ Nov 4 2008, 11:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We had trouble a while back working out whether Las Vegas was pronounced Loss Vegas

We call it Lost Wages! biggrin.gif

We also discuss. tongue.gif

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« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2008, 01:37:13 PM »
QUOTE(Gregg @ Nov 4 2008, 01:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Neil, almost everyone in the States pronounces Las Vegas (the first part of it anyway) like Los Angeles. That's clearly wrong.



Um, I've never pronounced Las like Los.  Maybe because I have taken Spanish but it's always been an "ah" sound for me.  smile.gif


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« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2008, 04:20:02 PM »
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Hope that didn't scare anyone...

This could well turn into the longest thread ever seen at TS...

BTW, is it "sir-via-vir-z" or "su-viav-or-z?" :troll:
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« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2008, 06:29:07 PM »
QUOTE(krissel @ Nov 4 2008, 01:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Um, I've never pronounced Las like Los.  Maybe because I have taken Spanish but it's always been an "ah" sound for me.  smile.gif
Good for you. The minority is usually right! wink.gif My "poll" is once again comprised of mostly TV and Radio people in Milwaukee. I don't think I've ever heard it pronounced correctly on air, assuming we agree that the "ah" sound is correct. .... Lahs Vegahs
QUOTE(Xairbusdriver @ Nov 4 2008, 04:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
BTW, is it "sir-via-vir-z" or "su-viav-or-z?" :troll:
You mean is it  "su-viav-or-z" er "sir-via-vir-z"? Thinking.gif
It's probably a mute point. noevil.gif
Longest thread! Yer fergettin the "We need some humor" thread. .... or is it humour?? devilishgrin.gif
QUOTE(kimmer @ Nov 4 2008, 01:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We call it Lost Wages! biggrin.gif We also discuss. tongue.gif
laugh.gif the House always wins!
Careful with that discuss, if you throw it around indoors, you could break stuff. pillow.gif
« Last Edit: November 04, 2008, 06:32:00 PM by Gregg »
Ya gotta applaud those bunnies for sacrificing their hearing just so some guy in Cupertino can have better TV reception.

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« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2008, 07:02:36 PM »
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Careful with that discuss, if you throw it around indoors, you could break stuff. pillow.gif

Would that be disc or disk?

And who will clean up the mess?
Or is that whom?

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« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2008, 05:13:57 PM »
Unfortunately, 'names' are off-limits for 'correctness' battles. They are pronounced any way their 'owners' want. No rules apply. Period. If it ain't your name or you don't live there, you can't tell anyone else how to PROnounce it. Although, I think 'it' should be with a short "i" as in "in". .tongue.gif

edited to change "can" to "can't" in the fifth sentence. Xabd
« Last Edit: November 06, 2008, 09:45:45 AM by Xairbusdriver »
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« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2008, 07:42:28 PM »
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Unfortunately, 'names' are off-limits for 'correctness' battles. They are pronounced any way their 'owners want. No rules apply. Period. If it ain't your name or you don't live there, you can tell anyone else how to

Names of people, yes. Names of places, absolutely not.
Some places are named after people, and the population pronounces the name differently than the person the place is named after. They may know where they are, but they simply don't know how to say it correctly.
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« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2008, 08:00:53 PM »
Here in Oregon, I've heard the name of the state pronounced "correctly" more than a dozen ways. Every person swears they are a born-and-bred Oregonian and they now the 'right' way to pronounce Oregon. Personally, as long as it's not Cal-eye-four-nigh-eh, I don't care. tongue.gif

Oh, and don't be pronouncing that "S" on the end of Illinois. laugh.gif

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« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2008, 09:35:29 PM »
Well, I always figgered if someone said "Or-i-gone" they definitely weren't from Oregon. wink.gif

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« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2008, 02:43:21 AM »
My first job, when I was about 16, was dictating stories from the agency I worked for over the phone to national papers and international agencies. I once made the mistake of trying to pronounce Des Moines to an American at AP as if it was French blush-anim-cl.gif . Once I spelled it out he corrected me...  rolleyes.gif

We have fun over here with visitors trying to deal with names like Leicester (Lester), Bicester (Bister) and Cirencester (Siren-sesster). Heaven preserve us from consistency biggrin.gif

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« Reply #25 on: November 06, 2008, 06:41:08 AM »
QUOTE(kimmer @ Nov 5 2008, 08:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
the name of the state ...


Then there's Miz-er-y or Miz-er-uh, both of which are probably the wrong way to say Missouri. How about Miss-oor-eye?

And I was gonna mention the "s" in Illinois, but you beat me to it!

There's also Cal-a-rod-o believe it or not. I'll give people a little slack on that one. An "a" can look like an "o" when written by hand.
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« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2008, 09:52:06 AM »
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Heaven preserve us from consistency
I rest my case, Gregg. salute.gif "Locals" will always trump the 'educated!' laugh.gif Still "language" has always been an interesting subject. One of the courses I had to take twice, in my senior year of collegeuniversity was a study of the history of language. (I probably learned more the second time...) I'm proud to say that I managed to graduate with 98+ degrees! wink.gif blush-anim-cl.gif
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« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2008, 12:32:57 PM »
QUOTE(Xairbusdriver @ Nov 6 2008, 09:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Hignmac)
Heaven preserve us from consistency
I rest my case, Gregg. salute.gif "Locals" will always trump the 'educated!' laugh.gif


Not very convincing, to me anyway. I couldn't disagree more.

I'm reminded of several stories...

At Illinois State University, my wife's alma mater, there is a classroom building called Schroeder Hall. (I think I have that spelled correctly!) It was a running joke that you could tell who the freshmen were by how they pronounced that name. Of course, the "oe" is supposed to be pronounced as an "a" sound, as those who were well educated loved to point out to the freshmen.

I grew up in DeKalb, Illinois. It's named after some guy from Germany, Baron von DeKalb. We say it "D-cal_b" (two syllables). But, down in Georgia, it's "D-cab". That's with the southern accent, and it's wrong. When the media heads mention it during an NIU football game, they give it the Northern accent-free rendering, yet when there's a story from DeKalb County, Georgia, they become Romans.

Here in Milwaukee, there is a street named after a place in Europe (Germany?) called Teutonia. For years, I was pronouncing it as Too-tone-ya, like almost everyone else I encountered said it. One day, when for the second time I heard someone pronounce it as Ty-tone-ya, I looked it up online. I've been trying to pronounce it correctly ever since. I've asked a few long time residents how to say it. So far, none have been correct.

When the Green Bay Packers got a new quarterback about 17 years ago, the TV and radio reporters wanted to know how they should pronounce his name. He said, "It's Farv, even though it's spelled F-A-V-R-E. We know we pronounce it wrong."

Two businessmen were traveling together in Texas. They came upon a road sign giving the distance to Mexia. One said, "Mex-ee-uh, what a strange name!" The other said, "I believe it's Ma-hey-ya." They couldn't agree, so when they got there, they stopped for lunch and asked the young man behind the counter, "Please tell us, very slowly and distinctly, where we are." He paused and said, "Dare-e Kween." bump.gif

Ever been to the capitol of South Dakota?

I'll humo(u)r the locals, but when not in their company, I'll revert to the correct way.
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« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2008, 03:44:43 PM »
You can disagree all you want, Mr. Quixote. But if you say your name is pronounced "smith" but spelled "jones," that's the way I'll pronounce it. smile.gif Likewise with location names, most places may have no idea why the name originally chosen. And the old-timers certainly knew how they wanted pronounced and spelt! If you don't agree with them, that's your prerogative. But absolutely no one has the right to tell either the family or the town/village/city that they are "wrong." Just because a word/name is spelled the same as another, even a location or a famous (notorious!) person, doesn't mean that it was named after that location or person. And, even if you can prove that it was, it is 'owned' by that person/family or location inhabitants, not you or me.

My wife, when asked where she is from, usually mentions the nearest town, Trumann, AR. Notice that there are two "n's" at the end. Although where the name originally came from, very few seem to know, most claim it had the last "n" added when Mr. Truman, the President, took office. He was not one of the town's favorite politicians! smile.gif

You are also, probably aware of the many immigrants coming through Ellis Island that had their names misspelled/bungled/changed because of difficulty with the language or inability to read English. But that's the name the family took from then on. It may not sound the way the pronounce it, it's their name and the majority are probably proud of it. salute.gif

Most people pronounce my last name with a long "a" as it "ate." But our family has always used a short "a" as in "chaff" (the rubble/waste from many grains). I was over a year old before I could say the name, and I still couldn't read, so I just used the name I'd heard. dntknw.gif I usually corrected people for about 30 years. Then I realized it wasn't that important to strangers who I'd never see again. Why waste the time? Now, if there is a probability of a long term friendship/membership/work group/etc., that's a different story. If they get it 'wrong' I make them stand in a corner, on their head, and repeat it correctly 105 times. I tried only 100 times but it didn't work as well as 105... tongue.gif

And now, back to our regularly scheduled topic... rofl.gif
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« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2008, 04:19:21 PM »
QUOTE(Gregg @ Nov 6 2008, 12:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ever been to the capitol of South Dakota?


Did you mean the building, or the city?

" The word capitol is used to refer to the building where a legislature (such as the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives) meets while the word capital refers to the city which serves as the seat of government. You can remember the difference by thinking of the "o" in the word capitol as a dome, like the dome of the U.S. Capitol in the capital Washington D.C."

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