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« on: January 22, 2009, 06:22:54 PM »
Anyone know anything abbout Dan Frakes' Gem for this week?


Sounds good. Better than iPhoto? Easier than even PSElements?

Are those "effects" that useful for the genuine amateur?
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« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2009, 09:03:20 PM »
From the description at the link, it appears to be an app to make blanket changes to an entire image, not something I do very often. But it is mainly for use in creating/modifying images for use on the web. Not sure many of the effects would be useful in printing. I'm assuming there is some way to crop the image at a minimum. Nor do I see anything that can't be done in Elements. It appears to use mostly the "Core Image" services supplied by Leopard. I've seen many small, specific-purpose graphic apps for the Mac coming out since those graphic services were provided.

If it does what you want/need and its cost suits you, buy it! smile.gif Or try the demo, assuming there is one. thumbup.gif Then, let us all know what it does that sets it apart from other apps! clap.gif
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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2009, 12:16:47 AM »
This was mentioned in the comments as an alternative with more features, cheaper but less fancy.

http://www.mudbugsoftware.com/


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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2009, 12:53:02 AM »
Funny...I've had Picturesque for a while now (think it came with one of those wonderful bundle deals at MacHeist or something) - but I must confess, I haven't used it, other than to play around with it a little bit when I first got it. I have a few of those sorts of apps. rolleyes.gif

At the other end of the spectrum entirely...I got Adobe Lightroom for Christmas, and I absolutely LOVE it. It is not only relatively easy to learn, it's extremely powerful. It doesn't do all the really fancy stuff that Photoshop does (effects, textures, graphics etc.) but it does allow you to get the absolute best out of your photos, without have to jump through a million hoops. There are very few photos that I'll need to take into Photoshop for further touch up now - and those only because I have some pretty neat filters that can do a few things Lightroom can't.
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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2009, 11:03:22 AM »
Paddy when you "speak" all of me "listens" . . . even though I know it's not unlike a benchwarmer at a senior rec center hanging on every word of a visiting NBA star!!!!  toothgrin.gif toothgrin.gif toothgrin.gif

Is there a brief answer to what Lightroom will do for the "benchwarmer" that his copy of PS-Elements 6 won't/can't?

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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2009, 01:21:38 PM »
Dick, it has superb organizational tools (way better than iPhoto, for instance) from all of the options for renaming and organizing upon import, and is wonderful for doing all the simple tweaks (white balance, tone/curve adjustments, sharpening, even localized adjustments) that I often find are the only things I'm really doing in Photoshop anyway. In Photoshop, all of these things (if they exist, and not all of them do, exactly) are in different menus, requiring different steps. In Lightroom, they're all in one panel. And once you save an image in Photoshop, that's it - unless you maintain an original, untouched version as well. Lightroom's exits are non-destructive; your original is always there. You can go back and adjust any one or more of the editing steps later.

If you take a lot of photos and especially if you take a lot of photos in RAW format, I think it's an invaluable part of the workflow. I'm just starting to use RAW...but I definitely take a lot of photos, and also have to manage and edit a lot of photos taken by others for my son's school yearbook.

Another thing - a small thing, but a niggling one; iPhoto puts your photos in folders in its library and you cannot actually access that library easily (you have to go to "Show Package Contents" in the Finder) and that annoys me no end. If I want to find a photo using the Finder window, I shouldn't have to jump through another hoop to do so, and I also don't want the application deciding how to import/sort my photos!

This page has a quick overview of some of Lightroom's features and controls:

http://www.photoshopuser.com/lightroom2/features.html

As always, your mileage may vary. Someone on the DPreview forums asked about LR 2 vs just upgrading his PS Elements and got some interesting answers - and as expected, from both ends of the spectrum. I'm with the several posters who noted that 95% of their work was now accomplished in LR.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp...essage=30645998
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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2009, 01:41:24 PM »
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Very helpful. Thanks.


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« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2009, 02:25:04 PM »
Ive been almost ready to get Lightroom, many of my PS classmates are starting to use it too.
We havent gotten a camera that shoots RAW yet, but thats on our list too.
Glad to hear from you all about Lightroom, as I dont generally buy stuff that you dont recommend here.
Thanks,
Jane

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« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2009, 07:51:14 PM »
JUst hoping to clear up some wide spread misunderstandings about iPhoto (an app which I have extremely little experience but some basic info from discussions and presentations at our MUG). iPhoto '08 does not need to store any of your images in its own directory scheme, you do not need to use it to import your images from your camera.

In the first instance, iPhoto '08 can keep track of your images, no matter where they are on your drive. You simply have to tell it that's what you want it to do. Likewise, it will also not need to make duplicates of those images as did the older versions of iPhoto did, thus you will saves tons of drive space. Unfortunately, I have been informed that the default settings are to use the old method of making duplicates. Probably Apple wanted to make as few changes to the way things had been done with previous versions. So you have to use the Preferences to change that behavior. The setting is in Preferences->Advanced->Importing: UN check "Copy items to the iPhoto Library."

BTW, there are settings in that Advanced area to tell iPhoto to use RAW data, if you need it.

As for importing, again, I don't use iPhoto for that, either. Nor does anyone have to. But, once again, you must change the default setting in the prefs. General->Connecting camera opens: There are three choices, obviously it will be set to iPhoto but the second choice is the one I've always used, "Image Capture." That's a very simple Apple utility that's been around since Panther, I suspect. It recognizes any camera you might connect, even you iPhone, and it can then 'suck' out all the images to any folder you specify. It will also erase the camera card, if you want. I don't think that's wise as some cameras expect the card to be formatted as some variant of windows. But it works like a champ, very quick, no manual labor required. smile.gif

Now, iPhoto '09 is the first version that is tempting me to actually use it. Mainly for one specific feature not found as well executed on any other app that I know of for the Mac (and I suspect, for Windows/Vista). The feature is called "Faces." The '09 version can, upon your request (click a button) look through all your images and find those that have faces. It will then present them to you with the face area enlarged and centered in a thumbnail and the face area bounded by a rectangle. You can now type a name for that person, assuming you know it. Now the great part happens. iPhoto '09 will now take that info and look through your images again and present you with another group that it thinks are of the same person. If he picture shown is the same, you simply click the thumbnail. If the picture is of someone else, you have two (remember, computers are binary beasts!), double-click the thumbnail to simply say it is not who iPhoto thinks it is OR type in the actual name. What you are doing is 'teaching' iPhoto to better recognize the face of each name you type in. What this does is create smart lists that will make finding pictures of certain people much easier.

But what if there are many people in the picture? No problem, it can already see that and will highlight each face in the crowd, allowing you to name any and all that you know. Of course, the resolution must be high enough to make the facial features large enough to distinguish aunt pearl from uncle joe!

OK, but I have a bunch of pictures that don't even have people in them, much less people I even know! What good is "Faces" then. Well, the short answer is "None!" But as I am already on a roll here, let me mention another new feature called "Places." You know all that geotagging your camera has been doing? Well iPhoto '09 takes advantage of that EXIF info and can automatically add names of places based on that location, assuming it is somewhere that is commonly visited by people (other animals don't count!).

I'll leave it at that, for now. I just want people to realize that there are features available that we sometimes ignore because they are not well known. We sometimes dismiss some apps because their initial version was unusable or just plain bad. Most apps, including Apple's improve with time. Check them out, you might be surprised at what you already have installed! smile.gif
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« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2009, 06:58:49 AM »
It sure is amazing as to what is on our Macs that we either dont use, or dont know they are there.
I go thru the MacWorld magazine with a fine tooth comb, and always try stuff that is mentioned there.
And I will go into iPhoto carefully and look at all the features, and really appreciate your instructions for the new iPhoto.
When I get my new Mac, that will be helpful.
Garage Band for example, thats a great program from what I hear, but Ive never used it. The new version is supposed to be wonderful.
Our local Mac store might give a Sunday morning seminar on that soon I hope.  Theyve got a couple of kids in our high school who are experts with it.

My brother has the new iPhoto on his Mac and Ive been getting used to it, and Ive got 2 different versions of it here.
So much to learn, and so many goodies!
Jane