Author Topic: A New Member for Team 1971! (Read 4620 times)

sokukodo · « **on:** January 30, 2009, 11:05:39 AM »

Started folding my 1st thingy yesterday and am 69% complete ... the first thing I noticed was that my CPU temps shot up to 150F +/- ...

Xairbusdriver · « **Reply #1 on:** January 30, 2009, 02:51:23 PM »

First, Congratulations!

There is at least one other TS member folding, but she seldom makes an appearance or post here.

My heat values are in the 155° range, Graphics ~150°, internal drive 135, the rest are more like 110. Ambient air is 80.6. The upper limits for the cpu's are reported as 212! The three fans are running barely over the 1200 rpm lower limit (the cpu fan is 1387, the HD is 1397, the Optical drive is 700 (its lower limit). The app I'm using reports "CPU A Heatsink 145.4°, I'm assuming that all the processors are under one giant heat sink or that there is only one that has a temp sensor.

What kind of CPU% are you seeing from any other apps? I don't usually have anything using more than 2% except the folding routines. But the fact is, the cpus will be running near 10% all the time as folding will use whatever spare cycles are available.

Good luck in your progress! It is amazing how much faster this machine folds than my old 1GHz, PPC iMac!

sokukodo · « **Reply #2 on:** January 30, 2009, 05:52:31 PM »

Model Name: iMac
Model Identifier: iMac7,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.8 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 4 MB
Memory: 4 GB
Bus Speed: 800 MHz
Boot ROM Version: IM71.007A.B03
SMC Version: 1.21f4

CPU Heatsink: 125.6F
Core 1: 143.6F
Core2: 145.4F
Graphics Processor Chip: 123.8F
Graphics Processor Heatsink: 123.8F
Graphics Processor Diode: 134.6F
Hard Drive Bay: 120.2F
Memory Controller: 127.4F
Optical Drive: 102F
Power Supply Position: 143.6F
Hard Drive: 120.2F
Wireless Module: 104.0F

Fans controlled by smcFan Control:
HDD: 4797 RPM
CPU: 3297 RPM
Optical Drive: 2526 RPM

I have 8 apps opened now, w/ none above 2% of CPU; as we speak, I have just finished my 1st WU: took about 24 hrs.

Xairbusdriver · « **Reply #3 on:** January 30, 2009, 10:27:46 PM »

Are you sure you didn't sneak in and steal my iMac?!

I've got exactly the same machine except I only have 2GB RAM!

Of course, the most obvious thing to check is that the air intake is clear of any dust, cat hair, paper, etc. Might as well open the RAM door and make sure no one left any sponges in there after the "operation!" But that should also assure you that there is no obvious fur balls in there.

Actually, if you compare your reported temps to mine, you'll see mine are much hotter, by at least 15° and as much as 40°. Yet my fans are barely working. The only thing you didn't mention was your ambient air temp. Mine hovers around 78. Are you, perhaps near a warm air duct? A window with direct sunlight? Sitting way too close to the machine?!!

Another possibility is that one of us has a batch of bad sensors. Their probably one of the cheapest parts of the machine. Or the fan's speed controller(s).

OK, I held two folded sheets of bond paper over the entire bottom grill for more than 10 minutes. The ambient air temp peaked at 98.6, the cores got to 179.6 and 181.4. The CPU fan was solidly above 1400 but never over 1715. The HD Fan finally got to 1430. But I still never heard them, even though I could hear the drive being used during a TimeMachine update. My head was within 10 inches of the screen during this whole time. Now my wrists are sore from holding my hands upside down and applying upward pressure to keep the grill covered!

The main thing I can deduce from the above is that the ambient air temp sensor must be right where one of my fingers was under the grill! But I think can also say that the fan sensors and controllers are working.

Maybe your fan motors don't actually have any fans on them!

I just hope you are happy, the HD Fan now seems stuck around 1430+/- 5! The CPU is down to 1410 and the cpus show 174.2°. Ambient is back to 78.8. I'm about to retire to the bed, we'll see how things are tomorrow. The ambient air will be much lower in a few hours as the thermostat is set to go down at 10pm. Good night!

sokukodo · « **Reply #4 on:** January 31, 2009, 09:23:03 AM »

My ambient temps usually hover around the 80F mark. When I first got this machine I noticed that the temperatures were on the high side, and, after having burned through three video cards on my old rev A G5 duallie, I was a bit concerned. Therefore, I downloaded the smcFanControl app and cranked up the fans: a bit louder, maybe, but not an issue as I am usually listening to music through headphones as I surf the web, play video games (World of Warcraft, mostly).
Currently running a Gromacs SMP, and the temps are running at 140F, ambient 80.6F.

Xairbusdriver · « **Reply #5 on:** January 31, 2009, 10:23:11 AM »

Ahh, My next question was going to be if you had installed that 'fan control' app. It seems to be doing a fine job. I was considering it but some comments about its failing to completely return control the the original defaults caused me fear and concern and nervousness!

If it's the one I was considering, it would have to be reset after any kind of restart but that should be no problem since that occurs only once a week here.

BTW, I have an iMac AppleCare package that I'm not able to use.

If your machine is still in the one-year warranty and you don't already have AC, I'd be happy to sell it for a very reasonable price. But with the troubles you mentioned, you probably have bought that 'insurance' already!

sokukodo · « **Reply #6 on:** January 31, 2009, 07:43:31 PM »

Actually, the smcFanControl app works great ... you CAN re-set to default, if you so choose ... it gives you that option; and you don't have to restart it every time you log on: I put in in my log-in items, Prefs>Accounts.
Thx for the AC offer, but I already have it.

sokukodo · « **Reply #7 on:** February 01, 2009, 08:15:19 AM »

Hmm ... rebooted the machine this morning, and every time the folding begins, the cores crash.

Xairbusdriver · « **Reply #8 on:** February 01, 2009, 02:17:16 PM »

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rebooted the machine this morning, and every time the folding begins, the cores crash.

Well...stop doing that!!!

The most likely cause, IMHO, would be a corrupted WU. Probably one that didn't get written correctly at that first shutdown. There is a pretty active <TeamOSX forum site> that would get you more expert info, of course. If you aren't too far along with the WU (and even if you are and it's corrupted) you can delete it and get a new one.

If you've been to those forums, you will notice the frustrating way you get from one place to another. The pages will open in a new tab/page but the one with the original link will also open at the new page leaving without the original list of topics.

That may be the way you use forums but I like to keep the list of topics available all the time. You can still do that at these forums by always using the 'back button' to return to the list. Several have complained about this behavior but no one seems to be able to do anything about it. Apparently their moderators/administrators are not as concerned about their users as some other sites I visit (like TS!)...

sokukodo · « **Reply #9 on:** February 01, 2009, 04:53:20 PM »

I contacted the site; sent transcripts of the continual crashing; waiting for a response.

sokukodo · « **Reply #10 on:** February 01, 2009, 09:45:13 PM »

Never got a response from the forum. Re-installed everything, and everything seems ok ... if it starts crashing again, i'm not messing with it anymore (indeed, why beat a dead horse?).

Xairbusdriver · « **Reply #11 on:** February 01, 2009, 10:03:32 PM »

Not sure which folding installer you're using. I had trouble when I got this Intel iMac using Increase. I ended up just using the Stanford installer which basically just inserts some Unix commands to make the folding work behind the scenes. Increase is just a GUI, anyway, to peer into the logs and see how things are going, the real work is being done way under the OS. And Increase can still be used to monitor the progress and view the logs, if you want to. Running things this way, however, means that you cannot Stop nor Start the folding. You can still Pause it if you find some reason to do that.

Normally, Increase will ask you if you want to save or delete any unfinished WUs if you tell it to UNinstall itself. If you didn't tell it to save the current ones, they were wiped out. So, if the problem was a corrupted WU, you got the job done via the 'back door!' I would find it strange that the cores would become corrupt since they don't do any writing or modifying of themselves, that I know of. They are basically just like any other app, they do stuff, but they usually don't get corrupted. The files they write, however (including '.plist' files), are a different story!

Just good to hear that you are back up and folding. Sometimes you need to check back fairly often to see an answer to a post (or have a notification sent when it is answered). Today may have been a less than active day, also. I think there was some kind of special game going on, some where. I'll read about in the paper tomorrow. I doubt that whatever it was will change much of anything in the world...

sokukodo · « **Reply #12 on:** February 02, 2009, 09:54:08 AM »

Just checked my temps ... they are (both cores) running a relatively cool 136.8F; ambient is 80F: I'm a cappy hamper! Now I'll just let this thing run in the background and not bother with it ... I've got better things to do, such as listening to Norah Jones as I play Quinn!

Xairbusdriver · « **Reply #13 on:** February 03, 2009, 02:19:36 PM »

I dare not ask who "Quinn" is...

sokukodo · « **Reply #14 on:** February 05, 2009, 12:45:57 AM »

ROFL ... that's a Tetris clone!

of which I'm totally addicted ...

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Author Topic: A New Member for Team 1971! (Read 4620 times)