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« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2009, 07:45:16 PM »
A few hours after Applejack...no crash yet,

Here's the actual activity window:
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« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2009, 04:01:35 AM »
QUOTE(ADSR @ May 4 2009, 01:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Rom for aty rage 128 is too old (oxb6246948)...is this  a source of  problem ? is it updatable?



This most likely just telling you that your video card will not support Quartz Extreme. My 9600 video card doesn't either but it still works just fine.

Go into the System Profiler and get the info on your video card. You can see if there are newer drivers for it but I sincerely doubt it.  Also be careful you don't try to install drivers that are for a retail card versus the original Apple installed card.

Is this the DA? There are newer cards you can get for it. I bought a 64MB Radeon a few years ago for my DA and it does fine. Not all that expensive either. Higher MB cards are available of course but also more money.  wink.gif

Hope your Mac stays stable.  smile.gif


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« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2009, 04:56:00 AM »


Is this the DA? There are newer cards you can get for it. I bought a 64MB Radeon a few years ago for my DA and it does fine. Not all that expensive either. Higher MB cards are available of course but also more money.  wink.gif

Yes it's the DA...

Is there a specific one to buy, what will be the improvements...?

Thanks

GR

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« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2009, 12:52:39 PM »
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"SH" always shows up in any activity window I have open
Maybe you've just got your sound muted. dntknw.gif laughhard.gif

Only way I can get it is to run Terminal and enter "sh" at the prompt. Here's what the BASH MAN page mentions about "sh":
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If  bash is invoked with the name sh, it tries to mimic the startup behavior of historical versions of sh as closely as possible, while conforming to the POSIX standard as well. When invoked as an interactive login shell, or a non-interactive shell with the --login option, it first attempts to read and execute commands from /etc/profile and ~/.profile, in that order. The --noprofile option may be used to inhibit this behavior. When invoked as an interactive shell with the name sh, bash looks for the variable ENV, expands its value if it is defined, and uses the expanded value as the name of a file to read and execute. Since a shell invoked as sh does not attempt to read and execute commands from any other startup files, the --rcfile option has no effect. A non-interactive shell invoked with the name sh does not attempt to read any other startup files. When invoked as sh, bash enters posix mode after the startup files are read.
There's more, but I have a knot on my forehead caused by falling onto my keyboard when I fell asleep! Ouch!

I did notice that "sh" went away from my Activity Monitor when I exited Terminal. Do you maybe have Terminal running in the background? Or some unix script that requires "sh?" I was just thinking "sh" was a basic 'shell' system used to talk to the machine...dntknw.gif
« Last Edit: May 05, 2009, 01:07:16 PM by Xairbusdriver »
THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF COUNTRIES
Those that use metric = #1 Measurement system
And the United States = The Banana system
CAUTION! Childhood vaccinations cause adults! :yes:

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« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2009, 05:38:04 PM »
No terminal running..
Maybe had installed a software that require sh, remember a few months ago installing something that runs maintenance scripts in background   but don't remember the name...and how to remove it .

Today had  once more "sflsharedprefstool" quiting

I'm not in the tech side to understand all the explanations,..anyway thanks a lot for the help

GR

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« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2009, 06:22:45 PM »
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sflsharedprefstool
sfl + shared + prefs + tool? I have that (actually, "SFLSharedPrefsTool"). The path is: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/OSServices.framework/Versions/A/Support/SFLSharedPrefsTool

No "activatesettings" file.

Close as I can get to "trampoline" is "security_authtrampoline.8," but that's actually a document  in a "man" page...wait, PathFinder is finding dozens of files with that word in them...
This one looks interesting, same name as the one I mentioned, but the path is quite different: /usr/libexec/security_authtrampoline

Then there are about 10 instances of this: trampoline.mov
Path: /Applications/QuickTime Player.app/Contents/Resources/trampoline.mov

It's not really a movie to watch, nothing happens on-screen, it's just one of many 'resources QuickTime uses during operation. If that were the problem one would think ".mov" would be included in that crash report. Thinking.gif

I'm beginning to think a re-install of the combo 10.4.11 updater might be in order. dntknw.gif

Do you still need OS 9?
« Last Edit: May 05, 2009, 06:35:32 PM by Xairbusdriver »
THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF COUNTRIES
Those that use metric = #1 Measurement system
And the United States = The Banana system
CAUTION! Childhood vaccinations cause adults! :yes:

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« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2009, 03:50:39 AM »
QUOTE(ADSR @ May 5 2009, 05:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is this the DA? There are newer cards you can get for it. I bought a 64MB Radeon a few years ago for my DA and it does fine. Not all that expensive either. Higher MB cards are available of course but also more money.  wink.gif

Yes it's the DA...

Is there a specific one to buy, what will be the improvements...?

Thanks

GR



You will get much better response with windows opening, playing video and some of the special effects that X uses (like smooth screen savers) and generally faster experience since the card will take over some of the work that the system software usually does.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1582

I have a Radeon 8500 (AGP) which has 64MB. It probably can only be found used these days but I saw one on ebay (US $59) recently. There are other possibilities but it depends on how much you want to spend. I've found my card to be just fine but I suppose more MBs would be even better. It is Quartz Extreme capable but not Core Image.

This link talks about some choices but be aware that some of the cards don't boot OS 9 if that is important to you. Also note that the AGP cards will be faster in general but the PCI cards may be more available.

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.ma...0d8115e8e8ee0e8

Note the mention that DAs are not OS 9 compatible unless you play around with card placement. This is a PCI card though which is not as desirable as an AGP card if you can find one for a decent price.

http://eshop.macsales.com/item/ATI%20Technologies/100436014/


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« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2009, 04:58:08 AM »
I'm gonna look for a Radeon 8500 (AGP) ...it's just  a swap whith the older one?

Today sflsharedprefstool quit when i launched Firefox...


 I'm always using OS 9 sometimes..Is it safe Re installing combo 10.4.11 updater , can  find it on Apple download..?



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« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2009, 09:06:36 AM »
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Is it safe Re installing combo 10.4.11 updater
Many find iy safer than using the Software Update, incremental files. I think the basic advantage is that is has all the latest updates to all the OS internals, from security updates to tweaks of other minor stuff, but it's all in one package. The disadvantage, of course, is that is is a larger package; longer download times. Many Mac User Groups create a CD/DVD containing these updaters as incentives to join or as items for bringing in funds. Are there any User Groups near you?

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can find it on Apple download..?
There are actually two versions, the one you need should be the PPC version, I think. <http://support.apple.com/downloads/Mac_OS_X_10_4_11_Combo_Update__PPC_>
Be sure to run Software Update after this, however, since there have been updates to many of Apple's apps like Mail, iTunes, QuickTime, etc. that you may now make use of. These updates simply were not around when the 10.4.11 Updater was created.
« Last Edit: May 06, 2009, 09:06:57 AM by Xairbusdriver »
THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF COUNTRIES
Those that use metric = #1 Measurement system
And the United States = The Banana system
CAUTION! Childhood vaccinations cause adults! :yes:

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« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2009, 11:51:35 AM »
Found MacOSXUpdCombo10.4.11PPC.pkg ...and many others updates in the library folder.

Coud i use them  from there..?

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« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2009, 08:29:07 PM »
Possibly, check the size of the file, the real deal is ~180MB.
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Those that use metric = #1 Measurement system
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« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2009, 03:48:44 AM »
If it's the full pkg and not just the receipt, sure.

Yes, the 8500 just goes in the AGP slot. Easy install.


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