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« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2009, 04:49:26 PM »
Most will remember my praise for <URL-M Pro>. I don't remember what I paid for it many, many years ago, but I haven't seen a need to use anything else. It works with just about any browser. As a matter of fact, you don't even need a browser to use it. Nor do you need to depend on any server somewhere in the cloud to be available. You don't even need to be connected to the interweb. All your bookmarks are available in a normal, hierarchical menu from its icon on your menu bar, so, if you're reading an email and are reminded of a site that you've bookmarked, you can use the menu to automatically open your browser of choice and head right to the site. Of course, not being connected will make surfing somewhat harder...tongue.gif

There has been quite a lull in its development, mainly getting it to work with some browsers that don't cooperate with certain OS functions. But the developer posted a few weeks ago that he has some new ideas, features and user-suggestions that he plans on adding in the near future. He is still working on making it even better.

It keeps your bookmarks in a series of folders that you create and arrange anyway you want. Of course, you can move the bookmarks around and between folders, as usual. Like most bookmark apps, it will prune dead links, if you want it to. And it makes its own backs, as well. It's not the prettiest but it is the standard, as for as I'm concerned. smile.gif
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« Reply #31 on: July 21, 2009, 03:03:33 AM »
QUOTE(Paddy @ Jul 19 2009, 10:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Foxmarks is now called XMarks as of March, apparently:

http://www.xmarks.com/

Looks really interesting - and it's FREE! Must check it out - when I have a bit more time. tongue.gif (I'm afraid the four letter word getting in my way of late has been WORK...)


That's the same one as me then wink.gif

Still, it pays the bills and my French has improved to the point that my workmates say I'm bi-lingual (again).

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« Reply #32 on: July 21, 2009, 12:28:34 PM »
Jim, thanks for reminding me about URLM-Pro having link validating as one of its features; I just fired it up and the software is busy checking every one of my 5,628 bookmarks...

I doubt that any browser can handle that many bookmarks... I certainly would not have the organizational options that are intrinsic to URLM-Pro. I have used URLM-Pro since the Netscape days, when Web browsers topped-out at around 200 bookmarks. After 200 bookmarks Netscape would lose the ability to sort bookmarks alphabetically, which made sorting a bit difficult...

I do use the Bookmarks Bar in Safari, but only for my most-used bookmarks (around thirty...) I also like using the feature that makes it possible to place multiple bookmarks in a folder and when the folder is clicked all the bookmarked Web sites open in tabs. I usually click my "First Thing" bookmark folder... well, first thing in the morning.
« Last Edit: July 21, 2009, 12:29:12 PM by Mayo »

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« Reply #33 on: July 21, 2009, 03:48:29 PM »
I think you were the one who told us about that multi-page opening trick. I have one that I use quite often. What amazes me is that so many use some commercial portal as their 'home' page. html is so simple, there's simply no excuse to be hit in the face with all the ads that come to you that way. Of course, using TS as a 'home' page will solve that problem, also. But the following 'code' can be copied and pasted into a plain text file and put on your hard drive and used as your, faster than greased lightening, 'home' page. You can keep it as simple as it is or play around with the html tags to your hearts content. It might even serve as a storage for bookmarks, if you organize them a little...
CODE
<html>
<head>
    <title>Local Home Page</title>
<head>
<body>

<a href="http://www.techsurvivors.net/forums/index.php?act=SF&f=1">Techsurvivors.net Forums</a>
<br>
<a href="http://discussions.apple.com/index.jspa?ft=y">Apple Forums</a>
<br>

<p>Just add "[a href="http://your_favorite_site.com"]<br>
Substituting a url copied from a favorite site for the text above between the "[" and "]".<br>
then, add some text for a title of the site, folloed by "[/a]" That's the basic format for any link
you might want. Now, replace the "[" with a "<" and the "]" with a ">" and the line will magically become a link!<br>

Or, just copy one of the link already in this file and replace the url with the one you want.</p>

<hr>
<a href="http://www.thehungersite.com/">the Hunger Site</a>
<p>I put a thin dividing line between the "Hunger Site" and the stuff above just to show that you can use
such a 'tag' to help organize your links into different groupings.</p></html>
<head>
</head>
</body>
I'm not saying this will be pretty or win any awards, but it will also not be seen by anyone but you or whoever opens your browser. Just use a simple text editor to paste and save the 'code' and name it whatever you want and anywhere you want (You will probably have a "Sites" folder created for you when the OS was installed). Now, open a browser and paste the 'path' to that file into its 'Open browser with this...' pref setting. Most browsers will even let you browse your drive/folders to find the file. It's almost as simple as inserting an external hard drive into an enclosure! laughhard.gif

Just two caveats:
1. File naming.
a. Be sure to place a period and the letters "html" or even "htm" as the end of the files name.
b. Make sure that the Save dialog is showing file name extensions.
c. Your text editor may use ".txt" for the file name ending, just change that to ".html" and it'll work fine.
2. Make sure to "Save as..." Plain text no matter what the text editor wants to do. Browsers don't know what to do with 'styled' text from a word processor. If you're lucky, it will simply ignore that extra junque. But why complicate matters, just feed the browser plain text, that's what it's been using for the last 20+ years. smile.gif
« Last Edit: July 22, 2009, 01:44:09 PM by Xairbusdriver »
THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF COUNTRIES
Those that use metric = #1 Measurement system
And the United States = The Banana system
CAUTION! Childhood vaccinations cause adults! :yes:

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« Reply #34 on: July 21, 2009, 05:27:15 PM »
Jim, what's a "preiod?" It doesn't show up in Keyboard Viewer or anywhere else for that matter...

We Novice Code Writers Want/Need To Know!


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« Reply #35 on: July 21, 2009, 09:33:43 PM »
QUOTE(Mayo @ Jul 21 2009, 05:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Jim, what's a "preiod?"...


Oh, that's a "pre-IOD*" biggrin.gif


Kb cool.gif













* IOD = Internet Obfuscatory Discussion

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« Reply #36 on: July 21, 2009, 11:23:04 PM »
Jim, as someone who uses a "commercial" portal as a home page, I think I can shed some light on why I do, at least. I use Yahoo - the Canadian version. I have customized it extensively so that it has all the RSS feeds I want - everything from the CBC and the BBC and NYT to ArsTechnica and my favorite comic (Non Sequitur) and weather and stock reports. There is exactly one ad on the page, which is easily ignored - and I suppose I could get rid of that with Safari Adblock. I check the page several times a day and can easily see the top news from all sorts of sources. Can't do that with a page of links... wink.gif
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« Reply #37 on: July 22, 2009, 01:52:22 PM »
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Can't do that with a page of links...
Uhmn, I don't see why not. Although it might require some javascript. Never tried it because I've never wanted it. dntknw.gif

But the biggest advantage of not using a commercial portal is that they will not be gathering any info about your surfing habits. That's personal info, if they want that, I'll be happy to sell it to them, but I don't intend to make it automatically given to them, at least not in one neat little connection/sire. tongue.gif

I know, I know, there's no such thing as 'privacy' on the interweb. But I dare say that the vast majority of people never go to the trouble of 'designing' their 'portal' page beyond putting their name on it. laughhard.gif Nor do they even think that someone would be watching their actions. Oh well. I picked up the habit back when we used dial-up. Just having one external link on the local page would indicate in a flash that the interweb connection was not made. With 24/7 connection, there's no real need for that notice. But habits die hard, at least for me. And the exercise showed me how simple (and sometimes limiting) html can be.

QUOTE
Jim, what's a "preiod?"
Sorry I used such a technical term, I "misread" (I think that is the newly anointed, PC term for "screwed up") the maturity of the audience! tongue.gif That'z too misteakz en won poste! eek2.gif
« Last Edit: July 22, 2009, 01:52:45 PM by Xairbusdriver »
THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF COUNTRIES
Those that use metric = #1 Measurement system
And the United States = The Banana system
CAUTION! Childhood vaccinations cause adults! :yes:

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« Reply #38 on: July 22, 2009, 02:21:33 PM »
Actually, I'd forgotten - there are a raft of customized start page options out there:

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/ways-to-build...ser-start-page/

I played around with one a couple of years ago, but it wasn't as sophisticated as they appear to be now. Anyway - I don't give a hoot if Yahoo collects info on my browsing habits to serve up their one ad to me. I don't use their search engine...and I ignore their ad. I would think that anyone who has an interest is going to customize their start page if it's a portal - it's not difficult. Those who have no interest probably spend very little time on their start page anyway. Anyway - there are lots of alternatives and lots of abilities to make it what you want it to be. For me, the RSS feeds are key, and yes, there are certainly ways of creating my own web page with those on them, but I can't see going to all that effort to avoid one ad and whatever little info Yahoo collects on me. Gee...she goes to Techsurvivors.net from our page...dozens of times a day. But they never send me Apple ads!! (Just ads for my own bank - like I need those...and Capitol One and Classmates.com - doesn't look like they care what I'm doing!!)
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« Reply #39 on: July 22, 2009, 03:25:31 PM »
[deleted most of my verbiage because it sounded too much like arguing]
OK, I've stated my reasons, meager and flimsy as they may be. Not meant to even insinuate mime is the better way. It's simply my choice. Others are certainly as valid for them. salute.gif
« Last Edit: July 22, 2009, 03:36:07 PM by Xairbusdriver »
THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF COUNTRIES
Those that use metric = #1 Measurement system
And the United States = The Banana system
CAUTION! Childhood vaccinations cause adults! :yes: