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Offline george

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« on: September 08, 2009, 11:53:41 AM »
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The cd/dvd player will happily play a dvd (with sound) but when I insert a genuine cd disk it is ejected.
any ideas as to what the problem might be?
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« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2009, 12:20:14 PM »
Different lasers are used for CDs and DVDs. It's possible that the CD laser has a dirty lens. My first step would be to use a CD/DVD cleaning disk. You should be able to get one at Radio Shack or similar retailer.

EDIT:  Oops! I hadn't noticed that you were in UK. I don't know if Radio Shack exists in your country but there must be places that sell those disks.
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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2009, 01:29:39 PM »
George, what version of iTunes are you running?

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« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2009, 01:46:48 PM »
Ver 8 which there appears to be no problem.
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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2009, 03:21:11 PM »
have borrowed a lens cleaner but sadly it also is ejected possibly because it was intended solely for pc's. thought it might be multi platform.
manufacturer is Allsop of Bellingham, WA
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« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2009, 04:30:32 PM »
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borrowed a lens cleaner but sadly it also is ejected possibly because it was intended solely for pc's.
I was not aware that CDs or CD cleaning disks had any info that would be platform specific. And the cleaner disk should have absolutely no information since it is nothing more than a plastic disk with a few short bristles on each side. The only reason the drive spins it is because the read head is looking for the info that is normally on a real CD/DVD, usually in the inner most rings/grooves. Usually, a cleaning disk will give up after a few revolutions since there is no info and the drive assumes the "CD/DVD" is damaged/unreadable.

I truly suspect that there is more to this problem than a dirty lens. sad.gif Seen anything on the Apple Forum threads? I'll look when I get a chance. I think I have a few in a drawer some place...
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« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2009, 04:53:02 PM »
Hi George - I got a CD/DVD lens cleaner from WHSmith (as Jim says, it's not platform specific) when I decided the G5 iMac was creating too many DVD coasters. Seemed to alleviate the problem, but only for a short time. In the end I got an external Firewire DVD writer. Much cheaper than getting the internal one repaired. smile.gif

Got this one from Jigsaw24. Used them for other items and never had any problem with the company. Delivery has always been fast.

Jon: The Radio Shack chain doesn't operate in the UK - nearest equivalent, I guess, would be Maplin. However, there is one little electronics shop near where I live that trades as Radioshack. Don't think they're out to fool anyone, though....  biggrin.gif
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« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2009, 05:20:29 PM »
As far as DVD coasters are concerned, you might find this FineTunedMac thread interesting. Apparently, not all brands of DVDs are created equal.
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« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2009, 10:43:23 PM »
The CD/DVD, as well as the hard drive head, are one of the few remaining electro-mechanical parts of any computer system. The placement of those heads is really quite critical and the least amount of dust in the mechanism can ruin them. Of course, most HDs are hermetically sealed and that keeps the dust out, but makes it harder to keep them cool. These removable writer/readers are dust collectors. Well designed ones will do a better job of preventing disaster, but they usually don't last as long as the HD mechanisms, even though their positioning is less critical. I've had and heard mixed reports on the effectiveness of cleaner disks, but they are worth a try if the drive is already broken, IMHO. But they won't fix much except knocking off some dust bunnies. And if those critters aren't removed for stew or rendering, they can still cause trouble! I think some species of gremlins actually live off them! eek2.gif

If the thing simply can't/won't read CDs but works with DVDs, and there are actually two different lasers being used, there may not be much hope for the CD portion. And I'm not sure I'd trust the DVD portion for any writing, a burned DVD may or may not be readable by any other drive. eek2.gif
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« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2009, 06:40:29 AM »
Have taken on board your comments and it would appear that the cd laser reader has gone south, therefore I shall cannibalise one of my spare iMac's lying comatose in the garage and proceed from there.
My thanks to all contributors.
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« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2009, 10:33:38 AM »
Dawned on me that iMac and eMac cd/dvd drives are not compatible, lucky me has a spare drive that will fit.
Don't tell me I will go to my room without being told.
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« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2009, 10:50:17 AM »
Or, just another excuse for a certain daughter to visit or vice versa? wink.gif
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« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2009, 08:41:36 PM »
My 2 cents. I have 2 iMacs. Both optical drives went south after trying to burn CD's.
Coincidence? Maybe.

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« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2009, 09:09:45 PM »
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Both optical drives went south after trying to burn CD's.
Well, should they decide to come West, I'll keep an eye out. But we're several miles South of I-40...

Seriously, how many times did you try burning disks? With or without labels? I'm willing to bet they lasted past the warranty period, of course! rolleyes.gif Maybe it's the water over there, often has a lot of minerals...and is sometimes very hard...maybe it was scale build-up? dntknw.gif Did you try Lime-Away®?
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« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2009, 04:24:48 AM »
The iMAC optical drives (with the exception of the G4 iGloo) are skimpy small laptop type drives that are crammed into small quarters and subject to overheating.  I've had one combo type drive (CD burner/DVD reader) in my old G3 that has lasted a long time but I seldom burnt things on it...I can remember it overheating a little when I played movies on it in the way back before I had a real DVD player.  The eMAC optical drives are full sized and a little tougher but some, like the brand that George was indicating he had, are nothing to write home about.  It's not a problem to change out the optical drive on an eMAC but I do agree it might be better to go with an external Firewire device if one is available in a good price range. I've seen some good deals over here that came with an older version of TOAST that could be upgraded for a nominal fee.
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