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« on: February 28, 2011, 02:13:20 PM »
Good resolution,  whistling.gif

Decided to make  a clean install  os 9.2.2 on my new third drive   in the DA

Just bought , received and install  an Emac install  CD, OS 9.2.2

Formating .... took  about 3 hours whit disk utility  31 Go (zeroing)  ist it normal ?


Booting was ok from that drive but  after,  Mac OS set up Assistant  stays whith  "one moment please...gathering information"  ....mouse working, but nothing happening, stays in gathering infos and no access to menu or Finder

Rebooting whith Set up Assistant of... mouse ok but  nothing accessible on  the screen...

One more strange  things  happening, even at the very start  smile.gif

Why this problem, what to do?

GR
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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2011, 03:05:55 PM »
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Just bought , received and install an Emac install CD, OS 9.2.2


Er...a bit confused here. Did you actually get it to install the OS from this disk? Usually you can't install an OS from a system specific install disk on another system. You'd need either an install disk that shipped with a DA or a retail install disk. As no DAs actually shipped with 9.2.2 (9.1 was as far as they got, as far as I can tell) you'd need a retail disk, or you'd have to install 9.1 and update from there.

You say "booting was ok" - but I'm not convinced it actually was.

You say "mouse is ok but nothing accessible on the screen" - ie: it's frozen?
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2011, 04:33:59 PM »
Apple Mac OS 9.2.2 Classic Universal Install Boot CD
Complete CD w License
NEW Sealed Full Install

Bootable & 90 Day Wty

This is an Apple original, 100% genuine, fully licensed Mac OS 9.2 CD. (FYI: Mac OS 9.2.2 will be shipped by default but other versions of Mac OS 9, including Mac OS 9.1, 9.2.0 and 9.2.1 are also available & can be switched out at no charge).
If you have an early model G3 or G4, this is the software for you. Compatible with eMacs, iBooks, iMacs, PowerBook & PowerMacs. Also compatible with some older PowerMacs & Performas that are upgraded to G3 or G4 via processor upgrades from Sonnet, Newer & Fastmac

That was the description...

Bought it cause had no 9.2.2 install cd , thought it was ok ...actually running  a  copy  of my MDD os 9.2.2  from another internal disk, should not be ok too but seems to work.

Finder and disks are on the desktop,  the mouse is not frozen, can move it  and click  but nothing happens sad.gif

GR

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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2011, 05:55:20 PM »
What color is the disk? And you made a reference to eMac - why?

Gray disks are system-specific disks.

Does the MDD drive have OS X on it as well? If so, you can clone it to the drive you've been trying to work on. If not, then you should be able to copy the OS 9.2.2 install from the MDD drive to the new drive.

Do you have OS X on the drive you're working on as well? (just not sure what you've got and what you're aiming for here!)

Re: copying: http://discussions.info.apple.com/thread.j...8&#13024758

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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2011, 07:03:00 PM »
Paddy,
The disk i ordered was a black  Imac  software install

http://cgi.ebay.fr/Apple-Mac-OS-9-2-2-Clas...=item2c5b1c9bc4

But i received a grey  Emac Mac os 9 install...?

Have OSX  but on another drive, just would like to have an 9.2.2 (only...and working  smile.gif ) install CD for the DA  .

GR

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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2011, 05:42:31 AM »
You were taken. First of all, you didn't get what you ordered and the gray disc eMac definitely won't work for you. Second, the iMac disc probably wouldn't have worked with your DA because it was made for iMac (although it does have a black label so I'm a tad confused about that).

I have often cautioned people about buying installation discs from eBay precisely because of the situation that you encountered. If you want to buy an OS 9 CD from a reliable source, try FastMac. I don't know what you paid at eBay but whatever it was, it was too much. See if you can get your money back and, at least, file a complaint about the seller.
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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2011, 06:28:49 AM »
Took a look to FastMac...

The 9.2.2 CD  they sell is the same that the one i ordered , but not received...!

Complete CD w License (on disk)

New, Sealed, Full Install

Bootable

Compatible w/Apple G3 or G4 Systems including PowerMacs, PowerBooks, eMacs, iMacs & iBooks

Also compatible w Older PowerMac G3s that are Upgraded to G4 via processor upgrades from Fastmac.

Is it true...?

Waiting to make a reclamation to the seller

Thanks

GR
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« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2011, 07:40:13 AM »
Anything that says "OEM" is NOT A FULL RETAIL DISK!! OEM stands for "Original Equipment Manufacturer" - and it means that the disk was sold (originally) with the equipment and that was the only way it was licensed. No equipment, no valid license. Of course things get a little loosey-goosey 10 years down the road, and people are selling all sorts of things, but the bottom line is that you want a retail system disk - it's white with a big orange 9 on it. Like this:

http://www.wap.org/journal/macos9/OS-9c.jpg

Those are hard to come by and expensive. You won't get one for $29. Your DA shipped with 9.1 at the latest (which DA do you have, BTW?) so you won't find a machine-specific install disk for it with 9.2.2. However, it's pretty simple to update to 9.2.2, so if you DO happen to find one, you'd be all set. But they're probably pretty scarce too.

I have disks for a Quicksilver (we no longer own it and it's running 10.4 these days anyway) with 9.2 on them, but I doubt they'd work on the DA.

There are absolutely NO OS 9.2.2 retail disks for sale on eBay right now - not here and not in France. Can't find any online retailers selling it either.

I think copying the OS 9 install from the MDD drive is going to be your best stop gap for now.
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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2011, 07:41:04 AM »
I have never ordered anything from FastMac but I have read good comments about them. I would say that their claims are true.
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« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2011, 08:05:42 AM »
Jon, they're selling the same machine-specific install disks that Georges already bought - they won't work. They say "iMac" on them! They're clearly marked as "OEM" on the listing page. Why they're trying to flog them as ok for any system is beyond me - they're not.

Furthermore, the company that Georges bought his disk from on eBay (FixMac) is the SAME company as FastMac. Both are owned by WE FIX MACS 1155464 - I looked up whois info for both FixMac and FastMac and bingo - same parent company. Their phone numbers are only slightly different too. No address is given for FastMac on their site, but my bet is that they're in the same building as FixMac. So ordering from FastMac will give him exactly the same disk he's already got.
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« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2011, 08:15:38 AM »
Thanks, Paddy. So much for the positive things that I have read about FastMac. As always, caveat emptor.
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« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2011, 08:27:36 AM »
A bit confused...

So , if  what says Fastmac is true... the Imac black disk would be ok? ( i remember reading something about buying Black ones)

Also , why the system from MDD , not specific to DA, seems to work Thinking.gif

Is this one ok?

http://cgi.ebay.fr/Apple-Mac-Retail-OS-9-2...=item483f4a9cdf

And updatable to 9.2.2  from the web?...(but maybe not for a long time ), that's why i'd like to get a 9.2.2 cd install  in case of problem (and i got some... smile.gif to re install easily

GR




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« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2011, 10:51:02 AM »
QUOTE(ADSR @ Mar 1 2011, 09:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A bit confused...

So , if  what says Fastmac is true... the Imac black disk would be ok? ( i remember reading something about buying Black ones)

Also , why the system from MDD , not specific to DA, seems to work Thinking.gif

Is this one ok?

http://cgi.ebay.fr/Apple-Mac-Retail-OS-9-2...=item483f4a9cdf

And updatable to 9.2.2  from the web?...(but maybe not for a long time ), that's why i'd like to get a 9.2.2 cd install  in case of problem (and i got some... smile.gif to re install easily

GR


No, Georges, the black disk will NOT be ok - that's what you have, isn't it? I don't even know what it actually IS, since as far as I know, there were never ANY system disks that came out that weren't gray. They looked like this:

http://www.yourmacstore.com/shop/shopexd.asp?id=159

If those disks actually are black, and not really bad pictures of gray ones, then they may be bootlegs - and then you don't know WHAT they are. Perhaps they are the retail ones (bootlegged) but if they are, why would anyone be so stupid as to make them look like the iMac install disks which have far less value?

(And no, despite the claims on the website, I very much doubt this disk would work either!)

The retail disk you've linked to on eBay would be just dandy if you speak/read Arabic, Central European (whatever that is!), Hebrew, Persian, Cyrillic,  Devanagari, Gujarati, Gurmukhi, Japanese, Korean, Roman, Chinese, Traditional Chinese - but I don't see French in there (or English) - do you? That's probably the reason it's only $36 US as a Buy It Now item.

You need a minimum of a 9.1 install disk (retail) for your DA. Anything earlier won't work. You can download and burn the 9.2.2 update to CD to have on hand. The issue is finding a reliable retail version of OS 9.1, 9.2, 9.2.1 or 9.2.2 in language versions that you can use. That's the hard part. They'll go fast and they won't be cheap. I have 9.0 (retail) but that won't help you, unfortunately.
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« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2011, 11:09:00 AM »
Don't have the black one, Imac, that i command ... they sent  me the grey Emac one...!

The retail disk you've linked to on eBay would be just dandy if you speak/read Arabic, Central European (whatever that is!), Hebrew, Persian, Cyrillic, Devanagari, Gujarati, Gurmukhi, Japanese, Korean, Roman, Chinese, Traditional Chinese - but I don't see French in there (or English) - do you?

I speak only...Devanagari, Gujarati, GurmukhiJust and a little Italian... smile.gif

What to choose between English/French ?is it only a matter of reading  or...? most of my apps are in English ...

GR

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« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2011, 02:25:13 PM »
Ok, well they sent you a system disk for an eMac then. That will not work on your DA, as you've discovered.

As for the choice between English and French - whichever you find easiest, would be my guess. What versions do you have with your OS X install(s) and on the MDD drive?

BTW - you can change the language prefs - it just depends what came with the disk to begin with. That one on eBay looks like it doesn't come with English (or French), though it's hard to tell from the listing. The article that Jim posted recently that referred to the interview with the Apple Store employee mentioned that one of the hardest things they had to deal with in the store was people changing the language prefs to Chinese or Russian - where even the alphabet was different, making it difficult for an English-speaker to change it back!

I've come across old posts from people who were trying to install the English version of OS 9 on computers they own in Japan - and all of them mention getting "English" OS 9 disks in order to do this. There are definitely language options on the English versions of the OS I've seen...so I don't know how all this works. Anyone got any idea? Is Georges likely to find an English or French language option on the disk in question?
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