Author Topic: IE Wouldn’t Quit (Read 2822 times)

pendragon · « **on:** February 19, 2003, 02:33:00 PM »

Last night, as I was shutting down my PB G3/333, OS 9.2.2, I quit IE 5.1.6 as I normally do. But this time, the “quit” got about 90% through the process when it froze my screen. No biggie says I. A three-finger restart and all should be put to right. The network/airport responded and all apps opened and closed/quit normally. Well, all except IE. And that again froze the screen. Repeated restarts yielded the same result. Eventually I caught on and went to bed.

So this morning, instead of doing my real work, I dedicated the morn to resolving the IE Quit Problem. I ran DFA, TTPro, Disk Warrior, Rebuilt, and Zapped. Nada. So then I considered trashing the preferences. In the process, I opened the Explorer Preferences and saw a folder called: “Temporary Files”. Being of tidy nature, I anticipated seeing no more that five or six files therein. Well, I was off by a few. The folder contained 14,368 files-using 115.2 MB of HD!

It took almost five minutes just to move/drag this folder to the trash and another five minutes for the trash to empty. But after so doing and again restarting, all is right with the world and IE quits as it should.

It’s just that I haven’t a clue what happened.

Any guesses?

Harv

[ 02-19-2003, 03:39 PM: Message edited by: pendragon ]

Al · « **Reply #1 on:** February 19, 2003, 02:45:00 PM »

quote:
Originally posted by pendragon:
The folder contained 14,368 files-using 115.2 MB of HD!

MicroSoft

Glad it's all better now, Harv.

kps · « **Reply #2 on:** February 19, 2003, 04:29:00 PM »

WOW! is right... sounds like a nasty memory leak or someth'n.

Bill · « **Reply #3 on:** February 19, 2003, 05:56:00 PM »

Where Harv?
In the system or apps?

pendragon · « **Reply #4 on:** February 19, 2003, 06:25:00 PM »

Bill, The (Temporary Files) folder that was so large is located in the Systems Folder/Preferences/Explorer.

Since fixing things this morning, I have been running a news site that refreshes every five minutes. So far, this folder remains empty.

I am hoping to be able to repeat the condition, if for no other reason than to know what not to do. I would love to blame M$ (almost anything is better than "operator error"), but still I am at a loss.

I wonder if Bernie got in to my system....

Harv

Bill · « **Reply #5 on:** February 19, 2003, 06:53:00 PM »

OH. You're talking about 8 or 9 OS Harv.
I just checked mine there. Empty.
Didn't even know it was there til this thread. <gr>

OH is spelled with an (((O))) dummy. DUH

[ 02-19-2003, 07:55 PM: Message edited by: Bill ]

Gary S · « **Reply #6 on:** February 19, 2003, 07:34:00 PM »

Mine is empty too Harv.

What kind of files were they?

RogerF · « **Reply #7 on:** February 19, 2003, 11:16:00 PM »

Harv....
you just described a problem that vexed me badly some months ago. I was running 8.6 at the time and couldn't get past the opening IE freeze.

I would have gladly abondoned IE except that I need it for an M$ designed IE specific work site. I ended up killing my HD over this.

I brought it in for an replacement and asked if they could diagnose the origin of the problem. Well they managed to bring the drive back, extract my critical data and the lead tech spent 3 days trying to figure out what happened (the problem grabbed him so he was on his own time).

He finally had to give it up and we never did find out what went wrong. Nowadays I use IE as little as possible and every once in a while it gets wonky and I get nervous. Please let us know if you figure this one out - I know a tech that would really like to know.

-R

pendragon · « **Reply #8 on:** February 20, 2003, 04:30:00 PM »

Roger, I am still unable to replicate the problem, but I seem to remember something about a piece of shareware that was supposed to preclude this sort of problem.

So I searched VersionTracker and found AutoPurge. According to the Product Description:

"AutoPurge is a small application that removes any unused items from the invisible "Temporary Items" folders on all mounted disks. In the past (Mac OS 8.6 and earlier), these items were removed by the OS itself, and placed in the trash. This is not the case in Mac OS 9.0. Applications place scratch items, cached, and other data in this folder, and then remove them when quit. If your Macintosh crashes while running these programs, those files are left behind. This can eat up LOTS of disk space in a short amount of time. If you are running low on disk space, but can't quite figure out why, this may be the case.AutoPurge is a simple solution to this problem. AutoPurge launches, checks the folders, looks at each item in the folder, and if it isn't currently in use, moves it to the Trash, then quits. All you have to do is empty the Trash. This is how the Mac is supposed to work. I recommend placing this item in your Startup Items folder inside the System folder to automatically launch at each startup."

Even though my IE Temporary Items Folder is not invisible, this does (IMNHO) sound like what happened.

BTW, I have since installed AutoPurge.

Harv

[ 02-20-2003, 05:54 PM: Message edited by: pendragon ]

RogerF · « **Reply #9 on:** February 21, 2003, 03:01:00 AM »

Harv,

guess I'm confused. I WAS running 8.6 at time. I only went to OS9 after the new disk install.

As I understand it, the IE problem you described was the same problem I encountered. If older versions (8.6 or less) purged, I should have been OK. I've since moved to OS 9 so I'll gonna' get and install AutoPurge.

Hope your fix sticks for you.

Please let me know if you find anything new. (I'm still peeved about the whole thing)

MamaMoose · « **Reply #10 on:** February 21, 2003, 03:57:00 AM »

The Temp Files problem is endemic in some apps when using OS 9. (Previous OS versions deleted temp files automatically). For example, Microsoft word, Excel, and Powerpoint temp files can ciause freezes if there are too many of them. This occurs when one is saving continuously as one is writing a long document. I have learned to close my Office doc after so many saves and then reopen it. Closing deletes the temp files.

As far as IE is concerned, I have trouble with cache and history.html files freezing my machine.. I solved it by running Macwasher which dumps all the "junk" in various browser (IE, Netscape, etc.) files and you can choose specific files to elimimate.:

http://www.macwasher.com

or

http://www.webroot.com

That should solve the problem.

MamaMoose

RogerF · « **Reply #11 on:** February 21, 2003, 04:34:00 AM »

Almost sounds like OS 6.08 days and M$ Word leaving (littering) the system file with temps. Some things never change.

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