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Offline RNKIII

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« on: January 01, 2012, 07:58:28 AM »
I know about Migration Assistant and Target Disk Mode, etc, etc...

BUT.... my problem comes in that the Old iBook only has FW400 and or USB and or Ethernet ports
New MBP has FW800 and or USB and or Ethernet and or ThunderBolt ports.

AND... my selection of cables, though wide, does not include a FW400 to FW800 crossover ...

IS there a way I can use Migration Assistant with this assortment of ports/cables???

TIA,

Bob K.   rnkiii

OO...OO.....
Just thought... Old iBook is SD backed up to an external HDD with all sorts of ports..  Could I make sure that Old iBook is backed up current and then use external to affect data movement to new MBP via FW800??

RATS...  SD backup HDD is only USB or FW400. NO JOY there!!
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« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2012, 08:41:00 AM »
You might be able to use Ethernet but I wouldn't count on it. I tried that for a friend when migrating from one Intel iMac to another and it failed. I ended up using a Moshi FW 800 to 400 Adapter with my FW 400 cable and it worked perfectly.
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« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2012, 09:12:56 AM »
That's about what I was thinking.....  but I ain't got one of them in the house, its New Years Day most places are closed, roads are a mess right now, so don't want to drive about searching for one, etc., etc....

Am now looking into SD backing the old iBook up to another external that has both FW400 and FW800 ports (with attached cables) and then transfering from that to the new MBP.....  And will probably go that route.... just a slower more scenic route than what I had planned/wanted...


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« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2012, 09:44:53 AM »
Bob, I've used Migration Assistant over ethernet and had it work (just connected the two computers with an ethernet cable) but others report it not working very reliably, so your mileage may vary. Using the SD clone with Migration Assistant may indeed be more reliable.

Do be careful that applications etc. are compatible with 10.7. You may want to do a bit of housecleaning on the clone before firing up Migration Assistant. wink.gif

Here's how to check the apps: http://osxdaily.com/2011/07/15/how-to-chec...-mac-os-x-lion/
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« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2012, 03:15:23 PM »
I'm sure glad I read the posts, I thought the title was "Date movement between computers..."! blush-anim-cl.gif With New Years, Somoan Islands deleting Dec. 30th and moving to the other side of the International Dateline (I sure hope they didn't have any troubles like capsizing the island!!! [Google: Congressman worries Guam might capsize]), I feared you might be caught in some kind of 'worm-hole!' eek2.gif
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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2012, 07:36:33 PM »
Apple Genius got it done in much less than hour and didn't even charge me rent on the cable... toothgrin.gif

Glad I took it to them and got it done without problem.... at same time I was able to 'pick' the genius' brain to help with some questions I and the intended user had.   Thinking.gif

Thanks for the assistance and replies.

(I was the 1st individual through the Apple Store doors at The Mall of America this morning at 10 AM... by the time I walked to the back of the store where 'my' genuis awaited, and turned around... the rest of the store was FULL of shoppers.)   jawdrop.gif


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« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2012, 07:38:46 PM »
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by the time I walked to the back of the store[...]the rest of the store was FULL of shoppers
Maybe you're just a very slow walker?! laughhard.gif    Next time, don't stop and mess with all the things on display! nono.gif scram.gif

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some questions I and the intended user had
Well, don't keep us in suspense! What were those questions?! Without questions, and especially the answers, we wouldn't even have the Tech side of TS!! eek2.gif And, of course, you advised the "new owner" to register here, right? Thinking.gif yes.gif Be sure they mention your name and they will get the "Friends & Neighbors" discount!!! clap.gif
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« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2012, 07:42:47 PM »
Was NOT walking slowly... Fast pace to stay ahead of people Tsunami.

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« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2012, 08:33:30 AM »
for future reference, if you back up your computer to an external hard drive using Carbon Copy Cloner or Super Duper, you can just use the external hard drive to move everything to a new computer. Migration Assistant has an option to copy from a hard drive. It's by far the fastest way to do it.
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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2012, 05:07:27 PM »
QUOTE(Paddy @ Jan 1 2012, 10:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bob, I've used Migration Assistant over ethernet and had it work (just connected the two computers with an ethernet cable) but others report it not working very reliably, so your mileage may vary. Using the SD clone with Migration Assistant may indeed be more reliable.

Do be careful that applications etc. are compatible with 10.7. You may want to do a bit of housecleaning on the clone before firing up Migration Assistant. wink.gif

Here's how to check the apps: http://osxdaily.com/2011/07/15/how-to-chec...-mac-os-x-lion/


So Apple has a newer version of Migration Assistant just for machines with Leopard installed to migrate to Lion. So far, a big bust here. The first recommendation is to migrate over a wireless network... DON'T DO IT!!!!


The first time I tried it it was up to 54 hours. The second time I tried it, it froze at 32 hours and 15 seconds. I left the computers on for about a 1/2 day, no joy, each machine was set to never sleep, etc.

So I guess I'll be trying the SD clone with an 800 Firewire cable and see if that does it. FYI, when using an ethernet cable to do this, Apple recommends that both machines are connected through a router, not directly to each other.

So I've had the new MBP since late Monday night and haven't done much with it. I'm going to back up my old MBP right now and try  using the SD Clone as Paddy and Tacit suggest. When I bought the refurbed MBP, it was advertised as "eligible" for a free upgrade to Lion, I thought it was coming with Snow Leopard, which would have made all this much easier.

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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2012, 08:25:50 PM »
Bingo! Took less than a half hour to load in off the SD clone.

Now I get to search for all my SeaMonkey mail stuff... this should be interesting.

This computer came with no System Disk, and Apple says that's standard with Lion??? I just got off the phone with an Apple adviser. Seems very strange to me...

Hmm....

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« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2012, 08:53:18 PM »
Same here... wallbash.gif  no system disk... sweatingbullets.gif
Guess there is a way of "applying" to the AppStore to get a "reload"/download...
But have not gone there as yet...

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« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2012, 09:38:16 PM »
Lion doesn't have an Install Disk...unless you want to pay ~$70 for the USB thumb drive. And good luck getting the App Store to let you re-download Lion! I ended up paying for it after trying every which way to make it show as available. There are several sites offering directions, not all of them the same set and most assume you are re-installing after purchasing Lion from the Store, not because your Mac came with it pre-installed. The support people said they would credit my card...never did check on that...note to self, check on that tomorrow!

Theoretically, you don't need a disk since Lion has the hidden Restore partition. I just don't like the idea of depending on a hard drive to always be working and what happens when it is replaced. Hopefully, SD will be cloning both partitions. All I know is that I have my own thumb drive and put the Installer on it, along with some utilities.

CAUTION! WARNING! When and if you get to download Lion, absolutely positively DO NOT use the installer until AFTER YOU MAKE A COPY OF IT!!! The installer deletes itself after it does the installing! It won't be on your drive, anywhere; it will be gone! Of course, you will also have a new Restore partition. rolleyes.gif
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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2012, 11:30:40 AM »
QUOTE(RNKIII @ Jan 18 2012, 09:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Same here... wallbash.gif  no system disk... sweatingbullets.gif
Guess there is a way of "applying" to the AppStore to get a "reload"/download...
But have not gone there as yet...

Bob K.  rnkiii


Yes that is in fact true.   I did it.  The difference I most noticed was Apple installed Lion directly onto the 2nd machine and did NOT provide you with a "downloadable" copy.

It loaded nicely and have had no unexpected troubles.


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« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2012, 03:06:46 PM »
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The difference I most noticed was Apple installed Lion directly onto the 2nd machine and did NOT provide you with a "downloadable" copy.
Not understanding...As we said, when Apple or anyone else, installs the OS, the last thing the installer does is to erase itself. That's why I noted the colored, bolded CAUTION, WARNING above. If you want to keep the Installer.app file you MUST save/archive/move it BEFORE you run it. Period.
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