File sharing between OS10.2.6 and OS9.1

[Gary S]

I have the OSX computer connected to my ethernet cable that connects to a hub that connects to my Beige G3 -OS9.1. Both are connected to my cable modem.

What's the easiest way to share files between the 2 computers?

I'm an ignoramous when it comes to File sharing.


 

[kelly]

Hmm. Turn on File Sharing in there somewhere.

Mac OS X: About File Sharing

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106461

[Paddy]

Gary, you can turn on file sharing on both computers - you do have to designate what you are willing to share though in 9, (the easiest thing being the entire drive - using "Get Info->Sharing") and put things you want to share in OS X in your Public folder or your Sharing folder. If you look in the Apple Help menu it will give you a fair bit of info on the procedure (rather than me trying to describe it here and missing a vital step). Set everything up - adding yourself as a user in the Users and Groups panel in File Sharing in OS 9. Turn file sharing on for both computers and then you can use Go->connect to server in OS X, or Apple Menu->Network Browser in OS 9.

However, there are a couple of other options, which give you much more access to the files on your OS X computer - including using the URL of the other computer with "afp://192.168.0.xxx" in your browser - it will connect, ask you for your password - which on the OS 9 computer you've set in Users and Groups. If you are logging into the OS X computer from the OS 9 computer using this technique, simply use your administrative OS X password and voila - you'll have access to EVERYTHING on your OS X computer, not just the Shared or Public folders.

Between my OS X computers I use FTP (Transmit), since I have all the settings for both computers already set in the menu and it's fast. It takes me directly to the User folder - which is fine, since I'm not going to be messing around with applications etc. remotely. For some reason or other I can't get it to work with the OS 9 Mac - it refuses the connection, even though I've got the TCP/IP option checked in filesharing on OS 9. However, the afp:// method is equally effective, and gives you access to all drives, partitions and files (you just have to remember the IP addys for all your computers - which since you have only two on the network shouldn't be too hard...I've got 6 right now including 2 PC's and a print server with it's own IP, and I keep getting mixed up!!!)

Hope this helps...If I've left anything out, ask away! There are a lot of fiddly bits to filesharing...especially in OS 9 - leave one of them out and nothing happens.

Edit - my router uses 192.168.0.xxx - other routers use 192.168.1.xxx as the IP addresses handed out by DHCP. Check your IP's before you start!

[Gary S]

Thanks Paddy and Kelly.

I'll come back tommorrow and work on it. I'm dead tired and need a little sleep before I go off on this adventure.


I'm sure I'll have some questions.  

[Gary S]

I have to work today but I copied and pasted both of your posts and will give it a go over the weekend.

thanks again Paddy and Kelly!

[Gary S]

I think I'm going to have to creat another user on the OS 9.1 computer. I can't remember the password I put in 5 years ago.

I know.....go meditate on it.

[Gary S]

Well, I can connect to my OSX puter from the OS 9 puter but not visa versa.

When I try to connect to the OS9 computer from the OS X computer I get a box that says "select the volumes you want to mount" but there's no volumes to pick from.

[Gary S]

bump

[Epaminondas]

Gary,
 
 
A heads up.  You probably know all this, but just in case -
 
I notice that you are using file sharing on Macintoshes that are connected to the Internet via cable modem.
 
As you are probably aware, this can risk decreasing your Internet security significantly.
 
The first thing that people are generally advised in regard to cable modem internet security on the Macintosh is to turn off file sharing.
 
 
Practical ramifications:
 
On getting cable, the first thing that a friend did was explore his file sharing possibilities.
 
To his surprise, he found that he was sharing his cable connection with 'most everyone in the neighborhood on a Macintosh on one big virtual network.

He found that he could see the desktops of a bunch of other people in his neighborhood who were also on Macs with file sharing turned on.
 

"Brian's hard drive"  "Jill's hard drive."  All beaconed his curiosity.
 
Who was Brian?  

Was was Jill?   Really?
 
Hmmmm . . .
 
I suppose that he could have even used their shared printers if he wanted to . . .
 
 
If you are going to do this, you may wish to turn off file sharing while on cable.  Particularly if you are one of those rare computer users who ever have anything on their desktop that they would prefer to keep private.
 
When you set up file sharing, it may be prudent to use good passwords.  That means a string of six or eight or more (depending on whom you read) random alpha-numeric-symbol characters.  Not just "Garycat7" - that is very easy to break.
 
 
To reiterate:  with file-sharing turned off, you will be much more secure on cable modem.
 
 
Regards,
 
Epaminondas

[Gary S]

Thanks Epaminondas.

I am aware. I have a good password and I think i'll just turn on Filesharing on when i need to transfer files rather than having it on all the time.

shared printer.....that would be unusual to print something and have it print on Bettie's Mac down the block!
 

[Gary S]

When i try to connect to the OS9 computer from the OSX machine it has the name of the the OS9 computer correct but the addy is wrong. It's named "Gary Swiech's computer' with the addy:  afp:/at/Gary%20Swiech%d5s%20Computer:* when it should be
aft://192.168.x.xxx. Whe i paste that addy in I get an error (-36).

[Paddy]

Gary, not sure why you're getting the error you're reporting - are you SURE the IP is correct? And you're not putting anything else in there besides the "afp://192.168.x.xxx" with the last numbers filled in?

On the earlier issue - you need to select the drives/files that you want to  share on the OS 9 computer, click on "Get Info" and then under "Sharing" designate who has privileges, and what they are. Make sure that the same people who have privileges are then included in your FileSharing control panel list of users (where you enter the name and the password). Of course, you can always make it easy on yourself and just use "Guest"...but that would leave you even more vulnerable to outside prying eyes!

Do you have a router though? Reason I ask - if you do, you are fairly secure, as most routers have built in firewalls. If you don't have one, I'd think seriously about getting one! They've gotten ridiculously cheap these days - like this D-Link (same as mine, but not wireless) from NewEgg - $31 after the rebate.

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?...tion=33-127-013

[Gary S]

Thanks Paddy.

I have D-Link Router with a built-in Firewall.

I'll try what you suggested and see if it works.

I had both Pouge's book and Robin William's book out, read them and
then proceeded.
That window that opens is waiting for me to select what I want to share....That makes sense. I was trying to tell it....I want to share the other computer silly!

Thanks again Paddy...your a sweet

[Gary S]

Paddy,

I did what you said to a tee and.......it works! Thank you!

I forgot to get info on the 9.1 computer and change the sharing thing.

[Bill]

Paddy.
Is your D-link the 624?
Reason I'm asking thought I saw that one going for $99.xx at either bestbuy or circuit city today. Didn't pay too much attention whether there was a rebate or not, just walked by it.