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Offline kimmer

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« on: September 21, 2016, 12:09:01 PM »
Aacckk! This morning Apple offered me Safari 10.0 – security update, blah, blah. Okay, download and installed while I enjoyed my one and only cup of java. One major problem: all my previous prefs are vanished with a download, and the default font size is tiny, tiny, tiny. I have to keep hitting "⌘ +" on every page. I launched "preferences" from the main Safari menu and I’m not finding a place to set my default font. I know it's there, but now I'm a bit annoyed.

Anyhow, be aware.
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« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2016, 12:23:50 PM »
Just "saw" this, myself. There is no longer a 'minimum font size' setting. wallbash.gif Try changing the Safari Prefs->Advanced->Page Zoom: to 115% (or higher). Unfortunately, this still has the font in the "Fast Reply" box smaller than what shows in a post...

BTW, "Zooming" the page won't make it load faster. rolleyes.gif Can't wait to find more "improvements".
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« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2016, 01:45:28 PM »
You can send feedback to Apple here. I just submitted a comment, to the effect that I won't be upgrading to Safari 10 until this is fixed.
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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2016, 01:48:10 PM »
QUOTE(Xairbusdriver @ Sep 21 2016, 10:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just "saw" this, myself. There is no longer a 'minimum font size' setting. :wall bash:

Well, isn't that just ducky.  dry.gif

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Try changing the Safari Prefs->Advanced->Page Zoom: to 115% (or higher). Unfortunately, this still has the font in the "Fast Reply" box smaller than what shows in a post...


Thanks, I changed that but it wasn't very satisfactory. I gmail, I find the section tabs to have small print, but I can now read the list of emails, and the emails themselves.  wallbash.gif

BTW, I won't be downloading Safari 10 to my laptop. That's already a tiny screen and I don't want to have to buy a magnifying glass in order to use the laptop.

Apple, I'm not 25! Give me back some control over all this!
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« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2016, 02:13:26 PM »
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Apple, I'm not 25! Give me back some control over all this!
This is an automated response from Apple.com. We have forwarded your message to the Senior Division Headquarters. As so as they get computers and desks to put them on, I'm sure they will be replying. In the meantime, please don't forget to take your meds!
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« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2016, 04:39:23 PM »
Another less troublesome change: Extensions now have their ENable/DISable checkbox just to the left of their icon. ...just because they can? dntknw.gif Seems to use more space than having that in the same area as the "Uninstall" area. I suppose Apple deems it critical that someone might hit the "Uninstall" button instead of the DIS/EN-able box. rolleyes.gif wallbash.gif You just can't be too safe ...but you should can irritate users with pointless changes! yes.gif
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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2016, 07:45:52 PM »
It's not just the TS site that shows up in teeny-tiny text. My Schwab brokerage account is the same way. VERY hard on these old tired eyes.

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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2016, 08:07:15 PM »
I haven't upgraded to Safari 10 yet (although I may install it in one of my clones to play with it) but I wonder if the font size issue is addressable with   TinkerTool 6 for Sierra or   older versions for previous operating systems. TT has a Safari tab that allows one to set default fonts and sizes but I don't know if it works with Safari 10.

Any brave souls out there who want to try it?
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« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2016, 10:05:27 AM »
Thanks for a reminder about TT. I'll try it immediately, if not sooner! scram.gif

Discovered that I actually have TT System 4. It was out-of-date, so I updated it. Unfortunately, I did not see any place to set a font size for Safari. Nor did the new version seem to recognize my previous registration. wallbash.gif

I also have a version of the simpler TT (V.4.9.5). I've attempted to set "Application" fonts to 16pt Helvetica. A restart of Safari is required. That app was also out-of-date. The new version requires Sierra!

I also found a TT System 5 version. It also requires Sierra!

I also ran a version of Cocktail. Set the Safari Standard and Fixed-width fonts to 18 pts. I'll Quit/Open Safari and see if I can "see" any changes. ...Possibly. Zoom was also changed back to 115% before I started post this, anyway.

I got other irons in the fire... will work on this later. rolleyes.gif
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« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2016, 01:56:45 PM »
I was chatting with a techie friend at breakfast, and he said the font issue should disappear when we all upgrade to Sierra or MacOS or whatever they are calling it.  rolleyes.gif  Whoopee. Doesn't help me now.

I'm bumping into lots of little problems with this new version of Safari: pages that won't completely load, pages that don't function well at all, etc. I switched over to Chrome for my main browser and all those sites work just grand.
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« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2016, 03:06:21 PM »
QUOTE(Xairbusdriver @ Sep 22 2016, 11:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I also found a TT System 5 version. It also requires Sierra!
TT 5 is good for Mavericks, Yosemite and El Capitan (I know; I have it installed). You can get it here
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« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2016, 03:45:00 PM »
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the font issue should disappear when we all upgrade to Sierra
A guy at another forum said he was not having any issues with font sizing in Safari and Sierra. Just have to deal with it until I upgrade, I guess.

Jon, too many versions, too similar names. That's why I originally downloaded the wrong app. I got the ones for Sierra instead of for El Capitan. I'm working on something else now, anyway.
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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2016, 06:56:23 PM »
There is, apparently, a way to adjust minimum font size in Safari 10. See this FineTunedMac thread.
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« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2016, 07:32:21 PM »
Ah yes, the old "defaults write" method! The major trick for all these is to find the file that needs to be written to! THANKS! First thing I'll do tomorrow! thumbup.gif
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« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2016, 08:28:10 PM »
Never mind, I figured it out.  rolleyes.gif
« Last Edit: September 23, 2016, 08:31:29 PM by kimmer »
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