Can you hear me now?! macOS 10.12.2 is here.

[Xairbusdriver]

Now what can I use as an excuse? I've been whining about holding off moving to <Sierra> until at least the .2 update... And here it is. BTW, this is the link to the Combo Updater. The rest of you can use the App Store.

[Dick Miller]

QUOTE(Xairbusdriver @ Dec 13 2016, 03:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Now what can I use as an excuse? I've been whining about holding off moving to <Sierra> until at least the .2 update... And here it is. BTW, this is the link to the Combo Updater. The rest of you can use the App Store.

Just used the combo updater, every thing seems to be working fine. Seemed to update faster than the App store.

[Xairbusdriver]

The Combo's basically over-write the entire 'old' install rather than looking for just the changes/additions/etc. Sometimes that may be faster, I guess. At least that's the way I understand it and eye'm nevur rong!

[jchuzi]

I used the incremental update from App Store and it worked fine. I have never used a Combo but then, I have never had an issue with an incremental either. Dumb luck?

[kimmer]

I'm still wondering if my older iMac will benefit from Sierra, if I should stay at El Capitan.

[krissel]

Well, I have moved up to the new world order, that is, Sierra.  I have been using Snow Leopard and Mt. Lion on my Intel Macs and wondered how well Sierra would work.

I purchased a Thunderbolt SSD external and installed Sierra on that and migrated the data from my 2013 MBA. I figured if I booted to it I could see just how different things were and how it would work.

I was amazed to see how well it all went. Aside from the flat look of Sierra (which IMO is dull and not great for older eyes), there was very little change from what I imagined there would be. Considering that I skipped over Mavericks, Yosemite and El Capitan, the move was painless. Since all went without a hitch, I erased my MBA and used SuperDuper to clone the external back to the MBA

The only other thing I didn't like about Sierra was the system font. I found a hack that lets you use Lucida Grande in Sierra and am testing that. It's easier on the eyes with non-retina Macs. Has a few issues but so far so good.

https://github.com/HiKay/macOSLucidaGrande

I have yet to try the external on my 2008 MBP 15" and my 2011 MBP 17".  The latter has Thunderbolt but the former has FW 800 so there will be a difference there. Will let you all know how they respond.

In short, am really surprised and pleased how easy (and quickly) the switch transpired.  

Will do the recent update in the near future after it has been out a few days at least.

[jchuzi]

I just noticed this "improvement" in 10.12.2: If you go to Safari > Preferences > Passwords, you must enter your administrative password to unlock them. In the past, you could get to that Passwords pref pane but you had to select individual passwords and unlock them one at a time. Now, all are unlocked. Merely click on the one you want and it changes from dots to the actual password. When you switch to another pref pane and switch back, you have to unlock them again. It's actually somewhat more convenient than the old method.

[gunug]

And they won't have that lying indicator about time remaining on the battery icon anymore:

QUOTE

One concern for all users of portable computers is battery life. Some users have reported problems with battery life, but Apple told me that after a lot of testing they stand behind the 10 hour battery life with the new MacBook Pro.

However, to help users better determine the battery life, Apple has removed the “time remaining” indicator from the battery icon in the menu bar with the latest update. You can still see the image on the top of the screen, and you can see the percentage, but you will no longer be able to see how much time is remaining before your battery dies.

The reason for removing it is very simple: it wasn’t accurate.

Apple said the percentage is accurate, but because of the dynamic ways we use the computer, the time remaining indicator couldn’t accurately keep up with what users were doing. Everything we do on the MacBook affects battery life in different ways and not having an accurate indicator is confusing.

http://www.loopinsight.com/2016/12/13/maco...-12-2-released/

I think this translates loosely to "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain"?

[Xairbusdriver]

Actually, it's pretty basic for folks who depend on batteries. There has never been a "time remaining" tester that is really accurate for an item that changes what it is doing based on outside inputs; as those inputs change, so does the "time remaining". Changing the display for no other reason is simply a waste of cpu cycles, which, in turn, affects the value displayed...

They must have a lot of faith in that "10 hour battery life". YMMV!

[jchuzi]

Another thing that I noticed with the 10.12.2 update: Notification Center now has a white background with black writing instead of the reverse.