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STOP HIDING THE HEADER!!!!
« on: October 06, 2018, 03:48:53 PM »
... only to make it re-appear with a 1 pixel scroll downward!!!!! :rant: :wallbash:

Hopefully you have not come across this 'modern' trend! It is probably a function of some css/javascript/html collections/framework that "designers" have started using. I find it very distracting and disruptive!

I'm sure the users feel it makes more screen real estate available for the content: Certainly can be a problem on phones, but less so on tablets and practically un-needed on a desk/laptop. This 'waste' of screen space is what has given rise to the 'hamburger' menu, but those are usually left in plain sight all the time.

Here are some sites that use this irritating hiding/showing/hiding/"what-was-that-flashing-thing-just-now?":If the site nav section is in the Header, why do you want to hide it from your viewers?! :dntknw:
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Re: STOP HIDING THE HEADER!!!!
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2018, 08:32:32 PM »
Um...the header only disappears for me on any of those sites when you scroll down - which is pretty much what you'd expect. There is a very short span on the military.com one where it disappears/reappears - but it's a pretty short blip. And the ad goes away entirely. I dunno - it's a bit odd. The foxzero.com site just loses the site name - and that actually looks more like an error in the code to me, than an attempt to do anything fancy. The others don't do any reappearing after I scroll down.

As for hamburger menus - unless you want to use a boatload of space to get all your nav links on the page - dropping your content well "below the fold" - then yeah, you need a menu that opens when tapped. Teeny, tiny text links don't work with big fat fingers. ;)

My beef is people who now think they're being clever by using hamburger menus everywhere - including the version for computer browsers. That, to me, makes a site LESS usable - forcing the user to click around, rather than laying out at least the basic navigation so the user has some clue what the site offers. If you've got screen real estate, use it effectively! Of course, the mobile use of websites is only increasing; not designing for it is now a cardinal sin (or just plain stupid).
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Re: STOP HIDING THE HEADER!!!!
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2018, 10:23:18 PM »
The header will re-appear if you scroll up, even by one pixel, after it has disappeared (when you scrolled down enough). It then hides everything that was at the top of the window, which was could be exactly what you were reading.

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using hamburger menus everywhere
Yes, that's what I'm talking about, also. I use it on my weather site, but only when the screen has a maximum width that prohibits the normal full width nav menu. And even when it is used, it has a text label beside it.
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Re: STOP HIDING THE HEADER!!!!
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2018, 12:41:56 PM »
Ok, I see what you mean with the first one in the list. They all behave slightly differently - probably someone's idea of how to make the menu accessible at all times, with varying degrees of success.

It's not terribly difficult...my clients for https://pointovue.com wanted it visible and it is, with no weird disappearing acts in the middle.
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Re: STOP HIDING THE HEADER!!!!
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2018, 05:08:49 PM »
Ah, yes... The client wanted the nazzy disappearing nav area and we all know the client always knows best! :wallbash: Glad I've never had to worry about customers! :toothgrin:
THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF COUNTRIES
Those that use metric = #1 Measurement system
And the United States = The Banana system
CAUTION! Childhood vaccinations cause adults! :yes: