Author Topic: "Adventures in Software" (Read 4415 times)

MrsLop · « **on:** August 07, 2003, 05:34:32 PM »

Evening All,

I have been up and running on OS 8.6 on my 4400/200.

I connected to Cox HSI using IE.

Today I noticed that while trying to find Ram Doubler by Connectix, for the my Mac, that there are so many versions of OS for sale.

Why do they sell OS 8.5, and all the "Upgrades" to these systems?

Does each successive "upgrade" build on the other?

I did some nosing around on my own system and I found a lot of applications programs listed, specifically, 146 files. My Print Monitor, for example goes back to 1994.

The ones that have troubled me the most have been the Internet Explorer:
Versions shown are :
5.0f35 (4MB and 4.91 MB file sizes)

5.1.6 (10 MB and 6,38MB fille sizes)

5.1.6 (copy 4) (8MB and 6.38 MB file sizes)

Outlook Express 5.0.6 (7MB and 6.20MB)

Outlook Express 5.0.6 (7MB and 6.20MB)

Outlook Express 5.0.2f35 (7MB and 6.15MB)

Outlook Express 5.0.6 (7MB and 6.20MB)

If anyone out in Macland knows the answer to what to do, I would appreciate your input.

As you can see, the MB's are adding up for IE and OE alone.

I have more such things listed more than once, as well, on the report that I printed out. For now though, I would just like to understand all these Internet Files duplicates.

What is wrong with this picture? What should I do, if anything to figure this one out? Do I really need so many IE's or OE's? On the face of all this, it "appears" that I have duplicates of the IE's on file and, also, of OE.

MrsLop

kelly · « **Reply #1 on:** August 07, 2003, 07:56:21 PM »

Why do they sell newer versions of an OS?

Why do they sell new cars?

OS 8.5 or 8.6 is probably the right OS for your machine.

They run the best on machines depending on processor speed and RAM.

You only need one copy of Explorer and Outlook Express.

You can throw the others away.

Which one has your mail inside it though?

Paddy · « **Reply #2 on:** August 07, 2003, 08:25:11 PM »

Myrna, your mail and address book will be in your OE Users folder, not in the actual program folder. Put the older copies of IE and OE (from your applications folder) in the trash and then start up the most recent versions to make sure that they all work before you actually empty the trash. Should pose no problems.

Your mail etc. will be in the Documents->Microsoft User Data->Microsoft Identities (I think - mine in X is "Office Identities" since I use Entourage, which is part of Office)->Main Identity. Back this file up occasionally - it is the most important bit and contains your mail and your address book.

Your bookmarks in Internet Explorer are in your preferences folder: System Folder->Preferences->Internet Explorer

You can export and save your bookmarks elsewhere occasionally too, as backup. (You can export them from within IE under the File menu)

MrsLop · « **Reply #3 on:** August 07, 2003, 08:40:49 PM »

Evening kelly,

Well, I really thought that there must be something wrong with my IE and OE files. If you recall, I had problems with Cox Internet Service. They kept telling me to download, so I did.

Frankly, I was afraid to touch anything. I was up for 21 hours straight one day into the next morning, trying to "fix" the problem.

I think I just tried to get back to what Bernie had installed.

Anyway, my husband and I have filled our address book and entered all our favorites and of course our subscriptions.

I will be darned if I know which one is "the" version we are running. Very tricky business, this Internet thing.

Myrna

MrsLop · « **Reply #4 on:** August 07, 2003, 09:09:18 PM »

Evening Paddy,

How was your vacation last month?

Thank you for the information. Maybe, I could try a process of elimination just remove one of the folders at a time.

Do I need to restart the computer for each time I remove something?

How do you do a "backup"?

I do have a floppy disk openning on my processor, I have never even tried it to see if it works.
Can I use this to copy my IE or OE stuff to? I have seen the Import Export selections under the File Menu, but I didn't know where to export or import things from or to.

I think that I will try to trash the duplicates tomorrow morning when I am more awake.

:thanks

Myrna

giantmike · « **Reply #5 on:** August 07, 2003, 09:45:16 PM »

How much RAM do you have in there? If it is 32 MB or more, you really don't need RAM Doubler (for what yo are using the computer for). RAM Doubler will slow the computer down, and does conflict with various software.

MrsLop · « **Reply #6 on:** August 07, 2003, 10:19:55 PM »

To "The Adventures of MrsLop in Macland" GiantMike,

Well, the reason I was going to try to get RamDoubler was because I kept getting obnoxious messages about "Not enough Memory..."and the inevitable "you can try to increase the Memory for Internet Explorer."

The amount of Memory that is Built-in memory is 144MB.
My Disk Cache is 1.75 MB and Virtual memory is 196 MB.
I have an External L2 cache of 256K

I don't know enough yet about what this all means. I have a very vague outline but I am not fluent in any of this to really discuss or understand it.

I had RamDoubler on the Power PC 6100. I wasn't hooked up to the Internet when I started to use that Mac. It seemed to handle all the mundane tasks of Word Processing and the like.
It was a slow system to use, so I guess that I thought that it might help me with my IE stuff.

:thanx

MrsLop

giantmike · « **Reply #7 on:** August 08, 2003, 08:41:20 AM »

With 144 MB of built in RAM, there is no reason why you should use RAM doubler. All Ram Doubler really is, is virtual memory with some different features.

If you're getting the not enough memory to load image error in IE (a very common one, even when it has more than enough memory), try allocating more memory to IE. If you need help allocating memory, just ask, don't be afraid

If you are getting messages that say you do not have enough memory to open an application, I'll bet it's either because that application is set to have too big a memory allocation, or you are trying to run too many applications at once. When you quit programs, you have to use the Quit command from the File menu. close all windows in most applications will just close the windows, but the program will remain open, taking up memory. To see what programs are currently open (and to select one), use the menu item on the far top right of the screen. It will either show a small icon of the application currently "in front", or the name, or both. When you click on that, you will get a list of all open applications, and will be able to activate one (bring it forward) by selecting it in that menu.

Hope this sheds some light.

kelly · « **Reply #8 on:** August 08, 2003, 09:01:19 AM »

Mrs. L. I agree with Giantmike. You don't need RAM Doubler.

Also. With 144 MBs of RAM I think you should turn Virtual Memory off.

Apple Menu > Control Panels > Memory.

Uncheck the use Virtual Memory option.

See here about giving an application more Memory.

http://www.macinstruct.com/ask/june/week4.html

Macs For Dummies covers all this very well.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detai...=18#reader-link

MrsLop · « **Reply #9 on:** August 08, 2003, 09:23:23 AM »

giantmike,

I just have to ask first: why do you call yourself

giantmike? Inquiring minds want to know....

I read what you had to say about RamDoubler and I am

relieved. The money I would have spent could go

towards better things, like my doctors, for example.

I will need to turn off my Virtual Memory, which I

thought I might need due to the messages when trying

to use IE.

Help! I don't know how to Allocate more memory to IE!

Thanks again for your help.

Myrna

MrsLop · « **Reply #10 on:** August 08, 2003, 09:32:13 AM »

'Morning kelly,

I just did the Virtual Memory in response to the

messages I received while using IE (sigh).

Speaking of memory (mine), I forgot to remember to

get myself a copy of Mac for Dummies. My Chemotherapy

did a real number on remembering things. I hope to

improve and according to my doctor, I will.

I am making a list right now. I hope that I can remember

where I keep the list ,LOL.

-again. You are "the man"!

Myrna

kelly · « **Reply #11 on:** August 08, 2003, 09:32:47 AM »

Cause he's a Big Guy.

Forgot to add.

Give IE about 20,000 KBs of Memory.

bil207 · « **Reply #12 on:** August 08, 2003, 09:36:47 AM »

Myrna,

You can get instructions on how to increase the memory for an individual application here.

I would give Internet Exlporer at least 18000 KB.

MrsLop · « **Reply #13 on:** August 08, 2003, 09:49:17 AM »

Well here you are ,Bill,

I have been wondering where you have been.

I lost your email address - the one you sent with the

Diagram and instructions. Thank you so much for that,

by the way.

I wanted to try to contact you about some of the

problems that I was having trying to get IE and OE

fixed. I was especially peeved with my ISP, Cox,

there was only one Tech who knew what to do with my

Mac. They were right though, it was a System problem

and not my connections to Cox, that was the problem.

Even so, I thought that they could do a better job.

If they had known about Macs, it would have been a

simple thing to fix. I spent a lot of time on the problem.

I still don't know why I keep getting Post Script error

messages when I try to print things out. Every day, I

run into this and every day I think I have it fixed.

I will use the link you provided and

Myrna

beacher · « **Reply #14 on:** August 08, 2003, 12:41:55 PM »

Hey MrsLops, I just looked on my shelf, And I have both "Mac OS8 for Dummies" and "Teach yourself Mac OS 8.5" that I could send you, if you'd like. Another suggestion is 1/2-Price Books store, which will probably have them for $5.00 or so. . .Let me know!

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