Sequoia, proceed with caution...

[chriskleeman]

So somewhat recently, I upgraded my 2020 MB Pro to Sequoia. I had to upgrade to be able to run Turbotax 2024. Several things have happened, not entirely pleased with this newer OS. I had made a bootable backup before I updated, running in Monterey. Sequoia does not recognize that backup, the MBP will not boot up from it. I can open it up and look at what's there but it won't boot.

The really annoying problem is that Seamonkey, which has all my VTel emails will not run in the newer OS. I get this
message:

The application “Dock” does not have permission to open “(null).”

According to the Mozilla forums, there is a command line that can be used in Terminal to force Seamonkey to open, but I haven't tried that yet. I'm a bit reticent to use Terminal.

I reconfigured Apple Mail to be able to use two of my Vtel email accounts, but I can't get at or navigate to my address book in Seamonkey. So I've effectively lost all my old email in those accounts.

Another is loading certain videos in Safari. Anything from ESPN either won't open or takes forever. The videos load and work fine in Firefox, go figure.

TTFN,

Chris K

[Xairbusdriver]

Don't have Sequoia yet, don't have anything that requires it. Hopefully, the folks at Mozilla will have already heard about this problem.
If you got a Terminal script from Seamokey devs, I would not be afraid to use it. Perhaps you could post that text here?

From what I hear, Sequoia's System "Prefs" is even more like that function in iOS. That means it is much less user-friendly and most of us end up using its Search function to find what we need.

However, I suspect the Dock connection to Seamonkey may get fixed if you can just get the app to simply run/open. You might find help by using the "Files & Folders" and/or the "Full Disk Access" functions. Be aware that these are the titles/settings (there are no more "System 'Prefs'!) in Ventrura (13.x) Sequoia may have changed those titles just to keep users on their toes!

[chriskleeman]

% /Applications/SeaMonkey.app/Contents/MacOS/seamonkey-bin

A Finder window will pop-up asking if you want to move SeaMonkey to the trash, don't do it and open System Settings --> Privacy & Security, scroll down and select "Open anyway" in the Security section.
Go back to Terminal and launch SeaMonkey again with the above command, now it should let you open the app.

This is what I get when I try to run that command, maybe because I don't use Terminal very often:

The default interactive shell is now zsh.
To update your account to use zsh, please run `chsh -s /bin/zsh`.
For more details, please visit https://support.apple.com/kb/HT208050.
Christophers-MacBook-Pro:~ Chris Kleeman$ % /Applications/SeaMonkey.app/Contents/MacOS/seamonkey-bin ; exit;
-bash: fg: %: no such job
logout

Saving session...
...copying shared history...
...saving history...truncating history files...
...completed.

[Process completed]

[Xairbusdriver]

According to this Bugzilla forum post, Apple has fixed the problem in macOS 15.2:

Chris Zim   

Comment 13 • 4 months ago
Just tried SM 2.53.19 on OSX 15.2 (24C101) with Darwin 24.2 and can confirm that this issue is no longer present.

Have you updated Sequoia to 15.2?

An aside: I don't think you need to type the "% " (the percent sign and a space) for that command. In my Terminal screen, those automatically appear as the prompt from zsh awaiting my input.
Another aside (the other side? ): not sure you actually switched to zsh. You report seeing "-bash" in your output. Did "bash" also appear in the window title bar?
When you open a Terminal window, it should include the name of the shell you are using (bash, zsh, csh, tsch, etc.). Apple's Terminal will also show your Admin name and the boot drive name in the windows title bar. That bar will also show the size of the window, assuming you have that selected in its Settings.
My prompt line shows:"xairbusdriver@New-iMac ~ % []". Note the space on either side of the "~" and the "%". The "[]" is my attempt to show the blinking red block cursor where my typing will appear. That cursor is controlled by what display choice is selected in the left-hand column of the Settings->Profiles->Text tab>"Cursor" (Block, Underline or Vertical Bar, a "Blink" checkbox and a color selector).

[chriskleeman]

Current upgrade is 15.4. Upgraded this afternoon and Seamonkey is up and running again. In fact, this reply on TS is loaded right now on Seamonkey! Videos from ESPN still take forever to load in Safari, but since Firefox loads their videos with no problem, it's just a small irritant.

For some reason, maybe just because I'm used to it, I like the Mozilla mail interface on Seamonkey better than any other email program I've used except for maybe Thunderbird (Also Mozilla). NIce to have it back with all my addresses intact. Now I'll also export the address book out of Seamonkey and import it into Apple Mail just to be safe. 

Thanks for your help and input Jim!

Chris K