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Title: FINALLY!?
Post by: Xairbusdriver on June 22, 2020, 10:25:11 PM: No more mac OS X(10) 10... and it won't even be XI 11, which is the only thing worse I can imagine! :wallbash:
Big Sur (https://www.apple.com/macos/big-sur-preview/) will simply be macOS 11. :thumbup:
Title: Re: FINALLY!?
Post by: jchuzi on June 23, 2020, 05:45:02 AM: It will be interesting to see if Big Sur allows the user to have the same interface as Catalina. For example, Catalina users have the option to either use dark mode or continue as in previous OSs. Also, Mail users can use the Classic view if they prefer.

I hope that Apple gives us this flexibility. I could adapt to a different interface, but my better half gets very upset about any changes. Time will tell.
Title: Re: FINALLY!?
Post by: Xairbusdriver on June 23, 2020, 10:04:25 AM: I doubt either one of us are in the 'demographic' target. Looking through the "details" at the above link doesn't show much of interest to me. However, I did glean a bit of hope seeing this:
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The menu bar is now taller and more translucent, allowing your desktop picture to extend from edge to edge. Words lighten or darken based on the color of your desktop picture. And pull-down menus are larger, with more space between the lines to make everything easier to read.

The mini-page preview of a Safari tab could be useful. :dntknw:

iOS has Dark Mode as an Option with or without automatic activation. The only strategic plan I see is to make the Mac as similar to iOS as possible. So, if it's in iOS already, it will likely/hopefully stay in the real OS.

I suppose making all the OS's use the same resources will make things easier for devs. Frankly, making apps useful for tiny screens on all iPhones is wasted energy when using even an iPad! I have yet to hear of anything useful for a watch-sized screen. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: FINALLY!?
Post by: jchuzi on June 23, 2020, 10:54:57 AM: Another question is the length of time that OS 11 will work with Intel processors. When Apple switched from Power PC to Intel, Rosetta supported the former for a period of time but eventually, it became necessary to buy an Intel Mac. The same will probably be true with the switch to ARM processors, although it will probably take a few years. Planned obsolescence?... :dntknw:
Title: Re: FINALLY!?
Post by: Xairbusdriver on June 23, 2020, 02:56:37 PM: Jon, Jon, jon... It's only money! You can't take it with you! Don't you care for all the Apple employees who will still be around when you are gone? Oh for the shame! :p :blush-anim-cl:
Title: Re: FINALLY!?
Post by: jchuzi on June 23, 2020, 04:36:13 PM: I know, it's true that money isn't everything. But they won't date you if you don't have any. :mad:
Title: Re: FINALLY!?
Post by: Xairbusdriver on June 23, 2020, 04:48:26 PM: Now you tell me!!!! :wallbash:
Title: Re: FINALLY!?
Post by: Paddy on June 23, 2020, 09:36:58 PM: Well, there are lots of previews on YouTube as of today, so you can have a look at it with developers or watch Apple's own intros.

Re: Dark mode - yes, it's an option, same as before.

All the app icons now look like the iOS icons, and things have rounded corners. Funny - someone on the GeneratePress (Wordpress theme I use) FB group today was claiming that "rounded corners are coming back!" A few disputed this, but maybe he had a line on what Apple was up to. ;)
Title: Re: FINALLY!?
Post by: jchuzi on June 24, 2020, 06:03:14 AM: For those who use Windows on their Macs: Rosetta lacks support for x86 machine virtualization, Boot Camp not an Apple silicon option (https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/06/23/rosetta-lacks-support-for-x86-machine-virtualization-apps-boot-camp-not-an-option-on-apple-silicon)
Title: Re: FINALLY!?
Post by: Xairbusdriver on June 24, 2020, 09:43:19 AM: Yes, all things mobile will soon appear on a Mac in front of you. :Thinking: If you still use a mouse, be especially careful as the new ones will be built to slip out of your hand at the most inopportune times; over water, in a hang-glider, over wet concrete, etc. Don't be surprised when the new light-weight Macs get moved to other convenient places in your house... and you will forget where it is! :wallbash: Fortunately, 'Find-My-Mac' still works on your iPhone... assuming you know where that is! :doh:
Title: Re: FINALLY!?
Post by: Paddy on June 24, 2020, 12:51:01 PM: Quote from: jchuzi on June 24, 2020, 06:03:14 AM
For those who use Windows on their Macs: Rosetta lacks support for x86 machine virtualization, Boot Camp not an Apple silicon option (https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/06/23/rosetta-lacks-support-for-x86-machine-virtualization-apps-boot-camp-not-an-option-on-apple-silicon)

This is not good news for developers, gamers...etc. Or me (not that I'll be in the market for a new Mac any time soon, since both of mine are new in the last 6 months!) :(

I wonder if Apple has any stats on the number of Mac users who also run Windows - either via BootCamp or via virtualization?
Title: Re: FINALLY!?
Post by: jchuzi on June 24, 2020, 03:23:33 PM: Remember that Big Sur is only in testing. Many changes can occur between now and when it is finally released.
Title: Re: FINALLY!?
Post by: Xairbusdriver on June 24, 2020, 03:41:04 PM: It's hard to stop a wave from crashing!! :scram:
Seek higher ground, now!
:yes:
Title: Re: FINALLY!?
Post by: jchuzi on June 25, 2020, 05:34:22 AM: For a preview of Big Sur: Hands on look at everything new in macOS Big Sur (https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/06/24/hands-on-look-at-everything-new-in-macos-big-sur) I don't mind the changes provided that BS allows dark mode to be disabled.
Title: Re: FINALLY!?
Post by: Xairbusdriver on June 25, 2020, 08:14:01 AM: I’ll take a look. I also want to disable automatic OS updates. Got work to do ‘round the house first. :multitask:
Title: Re: FINALLY!?
Post by: Xairbusdriver on June 25, 2020, 10:17:59 AM: Looks great... if I used any of the things mentioned. :laughhard: OK, I do use Safari. But I can't remember ever using a built-in "Start page"! Didn't AOL have one of those?! I've always built my own. Why would I want to mess with changing what somebody else decided I should see? :dntknw: I've also been using Chrome lately because the resource downloading scheme a course uses won't work in Safari. It was either use Chrome or GIT. :wallbash: Having an updated URLMPro, I rarely need/use any kind of default page, anyway.

As I said, I'm just not even a minor portion of the market they are developing for. One day, however, I may even install Catalina macOS 10.15! :rofl:
Title: Re: FINALLY!?
Post by: jchuzi on June 27, 2020, 04:47:24 PM: Big Sur will now support APFS in Time Machine. APFS changes affect Time Machine in macOS Big Sur, encrypted drives in iOS 14 (https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/06/27/apfs-changes-affect-time-machine-in-macos-big-sur-encrypted-drives-in-ios-14)
Title: Re: FINALLY!?
Post by: Xairbusdriver on June 28, 2020, 11:20:17 AM: This is the best remark I've seen about Catalina macOS 10.15:
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Adam Engst (ace)

Wait, Catalina doesn’t support 32-bit apps AND has wild pigs? That explains so much.
:laughhard:
Title: Re: FINALLY!?
Post by: Sooz on June 30, 2020, 01:35:43 PM: Oh, goodness!
I must be so far behind that I don't even know how far behind I am! :no2:

My iMac is running OS X El Capitan, version 10.11.6--I'm good with that!

I sure hope I'm still good to go for a while! (if you want to fudge a bit, you can go ahead and tell me I'm good to go for a while)
Title: Re: FINALLY!?
Post by: Xairbusdriver on June 30, 2020, 03:02:53 PM: There is no reason to upgrade unless you have things you can't do in your current OS and hardware.

You have already pasted the point where Safari can be updated because you are still using macOS 10.11. I think you may have also pasted the end of Security updates for that OS. The bigger problem will be what OS your hardware can support. What hardware are you using (many put that info in their Profile that shows under their avatar)? About this Mac should tell you the year of your Mac.