"Adventures in Email for OS 10.3.9"

[MrsLop]

Evening All,

Though my husband is very happy that we now have a working system and printer, he would like me to set up an email program that is more user friendly.
ie. He would like to be able to have a mail program that is user friendly and easily accessible on the Desktop.

I already have a program called Mail on the system. I don't know how to configure it or how to use this OS very well - yet. Specifically, how to add individual accounts. I tried to set up email for my husband using this Mail program and it began downloading all mail from the account belonging to my husband to my user name. Well, he has a lot of mail. That didn't work out too well.

I would appreciate the views of any/ all you members who use an email program that you can open on your Desktop, that is user friendly (easy), and allows you to have five or six mailboxes. Oh, and did I mention that it should be free?

   for your help.
Blessings and Prayers,
MrsLop

[krissel]

Myrna, assuming Cox allows you to have IMAP accounts which store email online and access it via email client rather than browser, all you have to do is choose IMAP instead of POP when you create a new account in the prefs of Mail.

When we created those accounts the other day they were POP since most people who have only one computer do not have a need to store all their emails online. That is usually for those who need to access the mail from several computers. Additionally you can download the messages in a POP account and leave them online as well by not checking the "Remove messages from server..." in the Advanced tab of the Account. You can then access them via any browser at the Cox mail site.

But if Tom does not want to download his mail then delete his POP account and recreate a new one as an IMAP account. You will note the choices in the Mailbox and Advanced tabs will differ somewhat.

Here are some links to info:

http://www.imap.org/papers/imap.vs.pop.html

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=151520

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=151562

Other programs besides Mail, Netscape and Micrososft's are:

http://www.eudora.com/

http://www.stalker.com/CommuniGatePro/

[MrsLop]

Good Day to you from Sunny Rhode Island, Kris,

Well, as per our phone conversation, Cox only uses POP and automatically supported Outlook Express when we first began using their service.

I am not too enthused by this Setting up accounts for each mail user, as I find it a bit tedious just to get mail from an ISP on my Desktop. There definately is a learning curve involved. I finally wound up starting new Accounts that you had suggested. This seems to be working. He can now compose, send and receive mail. The rest is up to him as to how he wants to tailor it to his own needs. He will have to deal with how to set up group addresses etc...

Tom doesn't want to download all his mail to the Desktop, having learned, as I did about the dreaded End of File using Outlook. He wants to be able to compose without timing out automatically,have a more versatile way to use his group addresses, send webpage links to himself and do school related stuff.

I don't have enough familiarity with this newer Mac OS X Mail. My needs are far more simple and straightforward.

I am trying to coax him to use OS X. If he uses it for any length of time I think that he will be quickly weaned from the OS 9.2.2. He is not jumping on the OS X bandwagon just yet and is reserving judgement until he sees for himself if it is working to suit his needs.

He leaves the troubleshooting of the Mac to me and simply states when things don't/aren't working for him. Once I determine what he wants to do with the Mac, then I can attempt to deal with it.

Blessings and Prayers,
Myrna

[Paddy]

Myrna, if you have Microsoft Office, another alternative is Entourage, which is essentially the Mac version of Outlook. If you/Tom are most familiar with Outlook Express, Entourage is a pretty easy transition, and it also allows you to import/migrate all your existing settings, mail and address book etc. I use Entourage and like it very much. I made the choice to use it 5 years ago when I first started using OS X, since at the time, Mail didn't offer a few features that I absolutely had to have. Now, they're much more similar in capabilities and it's more what you're used to than anything.

[MrsLop]

 Anybody,

I was set up as the Administrator on Mac OS 10.3.9. I have attempted to enable user accounts for Mail correctly. No matter what I do and even when I log into my Identity, my husbands mail keeps getting downloaded to my Mail account. I am sure that there is something that I must be overlooking.

Are these accounts viewable to me because I am the Systems Administrator?
 
I used the drop down menu and used the check for mail Manually on my account and the other accounts.

Do I need to Delete these accounts from personal Home screen? If so, how do I do this?

I have set up a separate account for my husband and he has his own password to get to his "Home" and for the others as well.

I am totally clueless
Blessings and Prayers,
MrsLop

[krissel]

Hi,

You have your account in X as administrator and I'm assuming you have created a separate account via the Account prefs in System prefs for Tom? In that case you only want to have your own mail account and no others in the Mail client when you are logged in as the user. Tom will log onto his X account and open the Mail program and create his own Mail account by entering the necessary information.

That way he will deal with his mail totally separate from yours and vice versa. So when you are in Mail logged in under your user account in X, remove all but your own Mail account. Otherwise if you leave Tom as an account in there you have to make sure under Advanced tab that his account is not checked where it says 'Include when automatically checking for mail". If it is, then when you check for mail his account will also get downloaded.

But to avoid all this have Tom use his own System X account and you two will just log in and out when sharing the G3. You will have your own desktop, colors, background, etc. and he will have his. Each of you will then have separate preferences for virtually everything. If his account has no restrictions (set in Accounts/System prefs) he will be able to do almost everything he wants to with the computer.

To remove his account from the Mail program while you are logged in, go into Mail/Preferences/Accounts. Then click on his account in the left pane and hit the minus button at the bottom left of the pane. A window will come up asking if you are sure you want to delete the account. That's it.

I'm not sure what you mean by "the others as well"..?

[chriskleeman]

Kris, Myrna, If I may,

I don't want to make things more confusing, but Kris, maybe you should have a look at the Mozilla suite for multiple mail accounts. It's very easy to configure, and allows you to switch between accounts with a mouse click. I personally have tried other mail programs and this works well for me, as I have multiple accounts (not to mention personalities.... )

Of course if you're looking for privacy, and want to log in and out as separate users... that's another story, but even so, Mozilla Mail is very easy to set up in any case.  

Just a thought.  

Chris K

[D76]

Regarding the Mozilla suite, if you decide to try it, the updated version is called SeaMonkey and is available here.

If you don't want to switch browsers, however, you could use the SeaMonkey email program as a separate entity. It's called Thunderbird and is available here.

[MrsLop]

Good Evening,Kris,

Thanks again for clarifying the Mail subject. I was successful in setting up separate accounts (Home) for Tom; and my Intercessory Prayer mail, which always needs to have a separate mechanism for those who require a reply. Tom and I lead the Intercessory Prayer Team - but we usually reply to individuals as the Intercessory Prayer Team, unless we personally know the individuals requesting prayer. We immediately needed to set up at least three accounts.

I went back and deleted the accounts set up in my Home and that solved the problem. Everything is working fine now.

Love, Blessings and Prayers,
Myrna

[MrsLop]

Evening Paddy,

Happy to hear that from you!  
   for the reply and will keep the information handy for Tom to investigate should he find the current program unsuitable for his needs.

Love, Blessings and Prayers,
Myrna

[MrsLop]

Evening Chris,

I went to the Mozilla site and have been reading about the two available programs.

BTW, there has been an update, something about fixing a bug.You didn't mention the version you were using so you might want to check the latest version by using the link that D76 provided.

I don't know if you read my reply to Kris, but I was able to finally fix the problems with the Mail program.

If Tom decides that Mail doesn't meet his laundry list of needs, at least I have an alternative for him to try.

  Glad that you added your reply. It sounds like a great program from what I've read thus far.

Love,Blessings and Prayers,
Myrna

[MrsLop]

DK76   to the "Adventures of MrsLop",

  for the invaluable links to the sites. I have been there reading about what they have to offer.

  I was very impressed with what I have read thus far.

One thing I did notice was the size of the program. 100MB is pretty large.

I was most concerned with my husband, Tom, being able to use it for sending out a large volume of email using his addresses for his online publishing. He has had quite a few problems since simply using our ISP to view and compose mail. I thought I would try to find something more suitable for his needs. He gets timed out. It's alright for viewing and answering simple email, but not too good for composing and sending email. He has been so busy with work that he hasn't had too much time to even learn too much about their version of address book.

Thanks again for replying.

Blessings and Prayers,
MrsLop

[D76]

QUOTE(MrsLop @ Oct 31 2006, 06:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

One thing I did notice was the size of the program. 100MB is pretty large.

My machine says that SeaMonkey weighs in at "only" 64.8 megabytes, but that's because it's a browser as well as an email app. But like all universal-binary applications, it carries a lot of extra freight — code to run on PowerPC Macs and code to run on Intel Macs.

Trim the Fat is freeware that strips the unneeded code from binary apps.

QUOTE

TrimTheFat is a simple, silent drop-launch utility to strip the code for the architecture(s) you're not using from a Universal application.

(A silent utility?)

After starting Trim the Fat and dragging my SeaMonkey icon onto the window it generates, SeaMonkey lost its Intel code and shrank to 41.9 megabytes. Thunderbird lost 20 megabytes. I saved 25 megabytes of space when I dropped Firefox 2.0 onto it.

You might save tons of space by using it with any app you downloaded or updated.

Thanks for the welcome to your adventures!

[chriskleeman]

FYI, download size is just over 22 MB for SeaMonkey... I just downloaded the suite as it is on the website.

I downloaded it today and have started using it, so far so good, we'll see just how stable it is...

Thanks for the link D76, didn't know that this was out there!

Myrna, glad to see you're cookin' along! Mozilla programs have always had a few "bugs" but  I have found the overall ease of use and intuitive feel of their programs to outweigh the occasional crashes.

Yes, I read that you had successfully configured your mail, nice work!

All the best,

Chris K