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« on: January 31, 2007, 09:03:39 PM »
I use my .mac email a lot, as it never seems to get blocked as spam and it has always worked very well.
But just in the last week several people and relatives have said that my mail gets sent back to them as undeliverable.

I wonder what is going on with .mac.
So I am switching over to my jcarter.net email which works just fine, or my old original Earthlink one, the capecod.net one.

Whats up with .mac?  I do like their old system with the storage, albums, sites, and the email?
Any ideas?
Thanks,
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« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2007, 02:20:55 AM »
There are plenty of mysteries about e-mail I'll probably never understand, but I'm guessing that "your" problem is actually the problem of your friends' respective ISPs which somehow may be determining that something is amiss - whether that's true or not.

I receive repeated frequent "bounces" of messages I dispatch to MamaMoose (even though he tells me that perhaps half the time the message is actually received).

I was told some time ago, when bounces were more frequent with some correspondents, that was because other ISPs had mine (then, PacBell) listed as too tolerant of spammers. In any event I had no control over any of that.
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« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2007, 07:48:14 AM »
The 2 people who recently had my .mac mail undeliverable yesterday morning were AOL and gmail.
So I switched over to my jcarter.net and there is no problem there, so you probably have it figured out.
I can use any of several, so will switch whenever need be.
Thanks for the explanation,
Jane
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« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2007, 01:16:44 PM »
You can go to your .Mac account and sometimes see a report of past problems ( ".Mac email was down for xx minutes on mon/day/year." ). Sometimes some ISPs don't make very long attempts to resend messages and they may report a bounce much more often than those who are more persistent.
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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2007, 02:15:07 PM »
When your friends get a bounce, have them send you the bounce message, then post it here. The bounce message should contain an error code and message, and an explanation of what the error message means.
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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2007, 02:24:15 PM »
Hi Tacit,
Here it is, its from my HTML class instructor,
Thank you again.  
Jane
   From:      xxxxx@gmail.com
   Subject:    ATTN Jane/ Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
   Date:    January 26, 2007 9:51:30 AM EST
   To:      xxxxx@mac.com
   Cc:      xxxxx@gmail.com

Hi Jane,
I received this yesterday?? Not sure what is going on, any ideas?
Hugs
Ellie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mail Delivery System"
<Mailer-Daemon@smarth-faced.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
To: <xxxxx@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 10:36 AM
Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender


This message was created automatically by mail delivery software (Exim).

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:

  xxxxx@jcarter.net
    SMTP error from remote mailer after end of data:
    host mail.itsamac.com [216.183.98.6]: 554 Your email is considered spam
(5.10 spam-hits)

------ This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. ------

Return-path: <xxxxx@gmail.com>
Received: from onemmx-orange.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([207.69.195.38])
by smarth-faced.atl.sa.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #4)
id 1H9m2T-0007Uj-00
for xxxxx@jcarter.net; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:36:01 -0500
X-ELNK-Loop: xxxxx@capecod.net
Received: from smtpout.mac.com ([17.250.248.183])
by onemmx-orange.atl.sa.earthlink.net (EarthLink SMTP Server) with ESMTP id
1h9M2q4WQ3Nl34q0
for <xxxxx@capecod.net>; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:35:58 -0500 (EST)
Received: from mail16-ce1 (mail16-ce1 [10.13.11.41])
by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout13/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id
l0OHZw4C017515
for <xxxxx@capecod.net>; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:35:58 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mac.com (smtpin51-en2 [10.13.9.119])
 by ms11.mac.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.08 (built Sep 22
2005))
 with ESMTP id <0JCD009CJVJY60@ms11.mac.com> for xxxxx@capecod.net
 (ORCPT janec3@mac.com); Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:35:58 -0800 (PST)
Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com
[66.249.92.171])
by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin51/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id l0OHZruq023109 for
 <xxxxx@mac.com>; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:35:54 -0800 (PST)
Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 30so197425ugc for
 <xxxxx@mac.com>; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:35:53 -0800 (PST)
Received: by 10.66.255.7 with SMTP id c7mr1358733ugi.1169660152960; Wed,
 24 Jan 2007 09:35:52 -0800 (PST)
Received: from toshibauser ( [68.35.31.25]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id
 k1sm1349689ugf.2007.01.24.09.35.51; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:35:52 -0800 (PST)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:35:49 -0700
From: "Ellie@Gmail" <xxxxx@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Jane/lesson2a
To: Jane Carter <xxxxx@mac.com>
Message-id: <008a01c73fde$1890c960$6501a8c0@toshibauser>
MIME-version: 1.0
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028
Content-type: multipart/related;
 boundary="Boundary_(ID_vz3XAzb35h+cdolmxZYIXQ)";
type="multipart/alternative"
X-Priority: 1
X-MSMail-priority: High
DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws;        d=gmail.com; s=beta;
 h=received:message-id:from:to:references:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=I+eLDlb8XnpID9ikkXBYZYQGWjtCvYNqx/fv74XSxpKMb4mUDiaPjQ5+1WsBtWsqH2CNHQnHBE54fsFwScgwFGc2vP11gHpzJpvGa+dj8ifdhQQ0xC
XtPtvwACQS5H9Qqzvcs11r5QFVWPfQoQ/l8Ssq3+kplTI9xzEZ2lpz4I=X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA==X-Brightmail-scanned: yesReferences: <976e955a219cc9517b2720659bcc5a44@mac.com> <002901c7340f$a14d4ce0$6501a8c0@toshibauser> <96c93fbcec822412a40b1b06f15173ad@mac.com> <002301c7367b$92264f50$6501a8c0@toshibauser> <6fc468fcfadd8380bdc4eadc0025f36b@mac.com> <003001c73bdb$37458cd0$6501a8c0@toshibauser> <9413aca83b14e8e974e0078cd2d9b2f4@mac.com>X-ELNK-Info: spv=0;X-ELNK-AV: 0X-ELNK-Info: sbv=0; sbrc=.0; sbf=00; sbw=000;This is a multi-part message in MIME format.--Boundary_(ID_vz3XAzb35h+cdolmxZYIXQ)Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_CQf87/s7WVvqyCmivvuUMA)"--Boundary_(ID_CQf87/s7WVvqyCmivvuUMA)Content-type: text/plain; charse!
 t=iso-!
 8859-1Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2007, 02:32:01 PM »
QUOTE(jcarter @ Feb 2 2007, 02:24 PM) [snapback]117747[/snapback]
SMTP error from remote mailer after end of data:
    host mail.itsamac.com [216.183.98.6]: 554 Your email is considered spam
(5.10 spam-hits)


[Emphasis mine.]  

IMO, it's not clear why the msg was considered SPAM...
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« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2007, 04:04:59 PM »
I hope you don't mind, Jane, I took the liberty of erasing your email address from your post. You really should not post that in a public forum such as TS, anyway.

The error code should be near the top of any report you get. Usually a 500 - 599 number, usually also posted in plain text for human consumption. Here is a <short list > of number codes and their meaning. I think each server admin can specify almost anything they want for any numbers in the range.

And, as you can see, the decision is made by the recipients server, anyway. Not much you can do about it.
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« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2007, 04:09:36 PM »
Thank you!  Thats the first time that any of my .mac messages were ever considered spam.
Strange, I wonder why?
I am using another email to send to Ellie now anyway, and they all get thru fine.
My cousin using AOL also had it returned.
Jane
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