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« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2008, 04:14:26 AM »
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This is pretty basic but have you checked your Finder preferences to be sure you have the box checked to show drives, etc. on the desktop? If so, perhaps this preference is corrupt, though it would have to be corrupt even in another user's account. Thinking.gif

But it wouldn't hurt to remove it, log out and back, or restart and see if there is any change... user/you/library/prefs/finder.plist



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« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2008, 02:33:23 AM »
I wonder why this problem has not been solved by someone writing software that could be used by anyone who doesn't have the knowledge or desire to poke around in the Terminal or to invoke ApplesScript.

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« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2008, 07:37:24 AM »
This problem also exists in 10.5.1 for a USB 2.00 drive.
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« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2008, 08:32:20 AM »
With Apple releasing 10.5.2 update I was hoping that it would solve my issue. But unfortunately it's still the same.

Out of my three internal drive paritions (from two drives), I was able to get two to show.

Out of my three FireWire External partitions (from two drives), I'm still not seeing them.

For my next troubleshoot, I am going to connect the FW drives to another Mac runing Tiger and see if they show up there.

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« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2008, 07:52:15 AM »
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« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2008, 08:59:36 PM »
...and good luck! wish.gif

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« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2008, 09:57:45 PM »
Thanks, will post the results. Was going to tonight but I am using the FW drive for some video work – maybe tomorrow.
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« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2008, 03:03:37 PM »
I'm a bit late on this. But finally did some troubleshooting. Still no luck. Even if I plug the FireWire drive into another Mac the drive still doesn't show. Also, if I connected the drive over a network (AppleShare) it doesn't show up.

Which of course makes sense, since the setting is for the drive to be invisible. I just wish I could figure out why it went invisible in the first place and why I can't get it back to visible.
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« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2008, 03:53:33 PM »
Sounds like the only thing you can do for now is to try that AppleScript or the terminal commands on the drives, one at a time, and immediately create an alias for each one on the desktop before you do the next. At least you would have an easier way to get to the drives.

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« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2008, 04:58:12 PM »
I've gotten my cloning project figured out that this problem was standing in the way of.  What I ended up doing was setting up an external drive system (Firewire or USB2/SATA) that was bootable with just 10.5 on it.  I took that system and used it to clone off the two partitions of a Boot Camp dual-boot system.  I had to use Carbon Copy Cloner for the MAC OS side and Winclone for the XP side to make and write the partitions.  The process goes like this:

1) Setup system to clone from (I used both iMAC 20" and Intel Macbooks) and I could take the MAC OS on this system to 10.5.1/10.5.2 with no problem; the external drive doesn't seem to work over 10.5.0 though.  Use Carbon Copy Cloner and Winclone to make the images from these partitions with the system booted from one partition on the external drive and onto a second partition for storing images.  The main external drive I'm using is an external SATA 160Gig with a 40Gig part with the system and the other 120 for Data images.

2) Boot from the external drive on the next machine.  Use Drive Utility to partition the drive (30 Gig for XP / The rest MAC OS Journalized).  The XP partition to me must be set up as FAT 32 because the MAC OS can't deal with NTFS.

3) Reboot the system from a Windows XP Service Pack 2 CD and go to setup and point to the FAT32 partition.  When you tell it to "install XP" to that partition you can then choose from a menu of what to do next to the partition and one of these choices is "convert" the drive to NTFS before installing and that's what I do so the XP partition is read only to someone on the MAC side.  The tedious thing at this point is that you have to do the 1st level of the XP install (precopying set up programs which I don't use) before you're allowed a chance to reboot to the external MAC 10.5 partition to go on.

4) When it reboots you hold down the "Option" key and choose to boot off the external partition with 10.5 on it and then use WINCLONE to clone the XP image over first, then reboot to the external partition again and use Carbon Copy Cloner to clone over the MAC 10.5.1 partition with all the goodies on it (Adobe CS3, Microsoft Office 2004, a music program called Sibelius and other things for this special music program in this case).

5) Then I usually reboot to the internal MAC 10.5.1 partition and then I reboot to XP the first time (it does a 3 pass CHKDSK check) and then I have to rename the PC because our network doesn't like two PC's with the same name.

If you were to clone over the MAC partition first and then the PC you'd have to do the PC partition twice (who knows) for it to work.  This is far more than anyone wants to know but I thought I'd show my progress.  I'd like to do this from a MAC server used NETRESTORE to do all the clone work but it doesn't work yet with 10.5 all that well.  There are also UNIX ways to do all of this but I'm not ready for that sort of heavy lifting!
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« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2008, 07:23:00 PM »
QUOTE(krissel @ Mar 1 2008, 04:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sounds like the only thing you can do for now is to try that AppleScript or the terminal commands on the drives, one at a time, and immediately create an alias for each one on the desktop before you do the next. At least you would have an easier way to get to the drives.

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Actually, an alias for each drive is exactly my work around. Hence the reason I haven't really tried to fix this. Plus I have aliases of the folders that I use the most on these drives.
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« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2008, 03:15:15 PM »
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I thought I'd show my progress.
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