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« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2008, 04:06:50 PM »
And still people are whining. rolleyes.gif They ought to try moving north of the border, where Robbers impose a 90GB/mo limit on their top rate plan (equivalent to Comcast's one-tiered plan), throttle P2P, and generally get away with highway robbery. But there are lots of places where it's even worse!
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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2008, 08:40:41 PM »
250 GB is generous. I use a lot of bandwidth but never over 100 GB per month.

I would suspect that anyone using over 250 might want to have a commercial account with a dedicated IP.

If you want a dedicated IP it cost you more and then you may as well spend a few bucks more to get the commercial account.

The commercial accounts have some advantages, sometimes they're on a faster, separate pipe, at least after the first mile.

I was pretty certain that the industry was going to block net-neutrality before the next administration came in, this is just an end-run around the issue and a big foot in the door to make a legal case when the time comes.

Look for the Bandwidth to be reduced once they feel that the public has adjusted and the abusers are in their place. wink.gif

Patty, we may never be as low as your limits but i suspect that in the coming years we'll move closer. They just do not want to build the network with excessive capacity and then have a new technology come along and leave their network behind. We're experiencing that now with FiOS, where the cable company is capturing regions with fiber and forcing residents to stay on cable. If Verizon had gotten the region first, then the Cable folks would have competition that they don't want. The fix is in around here, it's very hard to get FiOS if the Cable Companies run the fiber first, and the race is on. People are actually making housing choices over neighborhoods with FiOS, just like they do when considering Schools. wink.gif


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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2008, 08:46:39 PM »
I'm not a comcast customer, so I probably shouldn't say much ... but that never stopped me before. tongue.gif

My bigger concern is comcast has gobbled up smaller companies and taken over markets and in some areas is the only game in town ... and people signed up for unlimited and now they rules are changing. It's not ethical, in my opinion.

If the big boys can get away with this, then the little guys will follow suit and I wonder if we'll go back to 14.4 dial up with limited hours and paying through the nose for the non-privilege.

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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2008, 02:33:39 AM »
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2008, 03:28:56 AM »
Mark, how do you know how much bandwidth you are using?  I've always wondered how much I use.  dntknw.gif
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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2008, 04:11:30 AM »
It's not automatic Kris, I have to request it from my Cable Company who holds my Earthlink account. I have a Business account so it's probably more accessible to me but, I'm sure you can find out what yours is.

My sense is that they don't want you to know and think your not using enough but getting charged for an allocation you leave on the table. This has always been my argument against the system we employ. I really think we need to use the Utility Standard and pay for what we use. my 2¢


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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2008, 09:45:42 AM »
Robbers have a bandwidth meter if you log into your account online (thereby using more bandwidth, of course!) - I am amazed that Comcast DON'T have such a feature if they're going ahead with imposing caps. dry.gif

There are some Mac-compatible bandwidth monitors that you can download and install - this one seems the most useful:

http://lifehacker.com/software/featured-ma...eter-304529.php
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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2008, 10:39:16 PM »
Thanks Mark. I agree that paying according to usage is the only fair thing. A basic fee for a certain amount then added charges if you  go over that limit. Been trying to get my garbage hauler to do that. I pay for 4 containers a week but barely have 1/2 to pick up. The family next door fills theirs to the brim yet we both are charged the same. Ditto for sewage fees.

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Thanks Paddy. Downloaded that app and will give it a try. Just curious to see how I stand in all this bandwidth discussion.  smile.gif


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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2008, 02:54:45 PM »
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The family next door fills theirs to the brim yet we both are charged the same.
Sounds like maybe you need to suggest letting them use some of your space for half price? Or just waste more! rofl.gif

The great thing about all these on-line services (and practically anything with an open-ended 'stop' date) is that 9.999% tell you, in some of the thousands of lines of an "agreement", "These terms may be changed at any time by 'us' and your only recourse is to request termination (assuming you discover the change!)!" I'm sure Comcast's announcement will serve their lawyers as a "public notice" of all customers. wallbash.gif

250GBs does sound generous. But so did 640MB of RAM! And I was 'getting along' with 16K on my Apple ][! Thinking.gif
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« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2008, 08:11:35 PM »
QUOTE(sandbox @ Aug 30 2008, 12:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Well, Goofy might have something to say about that. harhar.gif


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« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2008, 11:17:25 PM »
Jim, I did think about that since another neighbor doesn't have that much either. But would you believe that when I checked it actually was illegal to share garbage services?   I think it goes back to the days when all the haulers were part of the Mafia in NJ.  Now this was years ago so it may have changed.

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« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2008, 08:41:52 AM »
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« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2008, 11:11:01 PM »
Jim, I was at first put off by the comments about it being an app that needed to be compiled but that is no longer the case.

It's on this page and a full app ready to use. I just checked it and so far it is collecting stats OK.

http://freespace.virgin.net/jeremy.dronfie...y/download.html


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« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2008, 08:09:55 AM »
Kris, back to the garbage hauling/sewage issue...wow, your bit of NJ seems to be in the dark ages! When we lived in Corvallis, OR we were charged PER container (the standard big ones, until they switched to their own wheeled bins for mechanized pick-up). That was over 10 years ago. Here in Toronto, they've just introduced a new system with various sizes of wheeled bins. The smallest one is "free" (with a small rebate on your taxes, actually) but only holds one garbage bag - perfect for someone living on their own, but perhaps not quite big enough for a family of 4. We got the next one up - it's $39 for the year and holds a bit more. I had originally ordered the small one in the belief that the city would be recycling absolutely ALL plastic and styrofoam by the time the new system was in place, but had to change our order when I found out that they hadn't got those contracts in place yet. Our recycling here, combined with the composting program, is excellent - almost all of our garbage is plastic packaging of the sort not currently recyclable (bags, polystyrene, styrofoam).

Everywhere I've lived, the sewage charges were determined by the metered water charges; use more water, and the assumption is that the sewage use is roughly parallel. Of course, this doesn't necessarily work if your major use is watering your lawn, but is generally much fairer than a flat rate! In North Andover, you could also get a bypass meter installed, which would measure the amount being used for irrigation and not include that amount in your sewer bill.

Sharing internet services with neighbors, though I'm sure it's fairly widespread, is expressly forbidden in any cable company contract I've seen. Of course, it was a whole heck of a lot easier to catch people before wireless came along - the best they can do now is complain that you have an open network and there is NO law against that! (Of course, if you are collecting fees from your neighbors and they can prove that, that might be a different story)
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