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Offline Gary S

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« on: February 15, 2003, 04:58:00 PM »
It looks like we may be purchasing a new Mac next month.

I would like to have the choice of booting to 9 or X.

I have been looking at the new Macs at the Apple site and it looks as though they are only bootable to OSX.2, as predicted.

The Old, New dual processor Macs, (867 GHz,1GHz,1.25 GHz) models still give dual booting capabilities.

Does anyone who has one of these new fangled (New world) Macs have an opinion, good or bad, as to problems with the dual processor vs. the single. I have seen on the boards that they run a little hotter but that's about it.

How about a used machine?

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« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2003, 07:18:00 PM »
Gary, Apple still ships one model of a G4 Tower that is dual boot...

Dual 1.25 GHz G4 Tower

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« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2003, 07:25:00 PM »
Hi Gary,

I have a lightly used PowerMac Dual 1.25 (actually dual 1.0 Ghz) G4 with all the goodies..(512 megs, Superdrive, keyboard/mouse...more details if interested). It will also come with Microsoft Office, Dreamweaver MX suite, VMWare with Win98, all disks/books/paperwork and we still even have the original box. Bought in December 2002 (actually Nov. 23, 2002) It still has the ability to dual boot to 9.2. (addition: this one was not noisy at all)

We tried to be switchers...really. It just hasn't worked out. Things don't switch that easy when you really, really have to get work done. The machine is great...nothing wrong with it, turns out we're just not switchers...yet.

I also have a 7500 Powermac G4 desktop. Gary or anyone interested can email me through the board.

Edit to correct my faulty memory...receipt gives the details..
 
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« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2003, 08:19:00 PM »
So you definitely want a Tower Gary?  

That Dual 1.25 that Apple will sell you is one of the "older" models.

Duals are nice. If you get an older Dual MDD you'll have to be aware of the "noise" issue.

Refurbished machines from The Apple Store or a reputable dealer like smalldog

are a good, pretty safe, way to save money.

Sorry it's not working out for you Diana.
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« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2003, 08:32:00 PM »
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« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2003, 09:37:00 PM »
"That Dual 1.25 that Apple will sell you is one of the "older" models."

Kelly.
Are you talking about the one Kps posted?
If yes. Then I take it they're new but have been sitting on the self already to go.?.

Do you have link (I'm saying this to Kelly ... do you have a link! sheesh) that states they are the older models?
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« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2003, 11:46:00 PM »
Not off hand Bill.  

But after reading a few thousand words on the subject there's no doubt in my mind.  

http://www.macintouch.com/g4-2003.html
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« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2003, 12:50:00 AM »
How to avoid / how to quiet the Leafblower Macs

(AKA "The Windtunnels")
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Why you might want a Mac that can still boot OS 9.x.x.
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At a minumum, to be able to migrate well into Mac OSX.x.x, get an AGP G4 machine.  The earliest of these (a used 400-500 MHz "Sawtooth" ) will probably run you $700+.

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« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2003, 10:02:00 AM »
You may want to wait fot this ?
 
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« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2003, 11:23:00 PM »
kps,

The only problem with the G4 1.25 GHz model you mentioned is that Apple wants $2499. for it, where as the new G4 1.25 GHz
model sells for $1999. I just can't see paying an extra $500.

It doesn't seem right, or maybe I'm just cheap.    

I'm going to ahve to buy a new monitor and ram for it too so i'm trying to keep the cost down.

Kelly,

Do you know if the model that Diana has (PowerMac Dual 1.25 G4) is one of the noisy ones?

I'm not hooked on getting a tower but I do want as much upgradeability as possible. That's why I was thinking tower.
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« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2003, 11:39:00 PM »
You're absolutely right Gary and I should have mentioned that. The pricing is downright 'obsene', seems like Apple is penalizing those that still need to use OS 9 in a dual boot configuration.

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« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2003, 11:49:00 PM »
kps,

I know. The pricing doesn't make sense from a hardware standpoint but I can understand why Apple wants everyone to
get to X. It just leaves a lump in my throat and I don't think i want to give Apple an extra $500. for the option.
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« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2003, 12:09:00 PM »
Yeah gary. Diana's machine would be one of the "noisy" ones.  

They seem to vary as to how much of a factor that is.

If you're reeally concerned about this you can look for an

earlier Quicksilver model like the Dual 1 Gig or 933.

I think you should look at a Dual 867 Refurbs. They're going for great prices.  

They'll continue to show up.

http://dealmac.com/articles/47337.html
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« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2003, 12:25:00 PM »
Thanks Kelly. I'm headed there now. I'll look at the 2x867s.
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« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2003, 01:08:00 PM »
Well, the 867s were gone.

I'm sure when I have the money in my pocket, things will work out and I'll buy the right one.
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