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« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2012, 01:49:22 PM »
First, the West is no longer known as 'wild.' there are great maps published on that stuff that computers were supposed to eliminate. wink.gif Many states will send you one free! Most states have 'Welcome' centers that provide these maps, also. Rand McNally publishes good atlases covering the entire country and many major cities. My point is, you don't seem to be planning on traveling to any extremely remote areas and I sincerely suggest watching the scenery and road signs rather than a smart phone navigation device. Unfortunately, I don't know of any maps of the quality and scale of the "Ordinance" maps available in the British Ilses. sad.gif That's all we ever use there and have never been steered (pardon the pun!) wrong!

There are also travel aid services in many cities, even small ones. US 101 is very well travelled, marked and developed. It certainly has plenty of help for those needing/wanting it.

The Hawaian Islands are not covered by roads the way the eastern US is and not even the way Ireland or the Shetlands are. There is usually one major highway that encircles an island. Keep going in any one direction and you will reach either the end of the road (near the top of the mountain that's been in front of you the whole time) or the other side of the island!! Who needs a map?! laugh.gif

Plan your trip before you get here. You have the advantage of the interweb that the pioneers didn't. laughhard.gif

If you need a phone, get the cheapest one possible and fergit about the GPS!! It's a vacation not an expedition!!! If you get lost, just ask someone, almost all Americans speak English in one form or another and many can actuall read! You'll have no problem communicating with most of us. And, if I remember correctly, you'll have fellow traveller who can, if needed, translate Flemish into Canadian which has many similar words as English!! wink.gif
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« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2012, 08:49:54 AM »
QUOTE(Xairbusdriver @ Mar 19 2012, 06:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Hawaian Islands are not covered by roads the way the eastern US is and not even the way Ireland or the Shetlands are. There is usually one major highway that encircles an island. Keep going in any one direction and you will reach either the end of the road (near the top of the mountain that's been in front of you the whole time) or the other side of the island!! Who needs a map?! laugh.gif


Hehehe, not to worry about the Hawaiian roads actually. Already figured that, either way I'm going, we'll get there wink.gif
Actually, going the wrong way just makes you travel longer which in Hawaii, isn't really a bad thing anyway biggrin.gif
But for LA, we're not always staying on the 101, we'll drive as close to the ocean as possible which I noticed is not always the 101 (or Route 1 I believe) so GPS would be welcome as a guide.
We'll also visit that Danish town (the name escaped me) and hopefully stay there for a night (since Smiley = Danish, and her sis is joining).

QUOTE(Xairbusdriver @ Mar 19 2012, 06:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you need a phone, get the cheapest one possible and fergit about the GPS!! It's a vacation not an expedition!!! If you get lost, just ask someone, almost all Americans speak English in one form or another and many can actuall read! You'll have no problem communicating with most of us. And, if I remember correctly, you'll have fellow traveller who can, if needed, translate Flemish into Canadian which has many similar words as English!! wink.gif

It's not just for us, it's also to give my family/relatives (which at that point will be two families), the opportunity to give us a ring when anything is wrong, or when THEY get lost tongue.gif

Thanks everyone.
I did a really interesting test with my A-GPS yesterday but haven't got the time to explain now (I'm sure some of you are interested to know how navigation on a smartphone holds up).
Will post later smile.gif

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« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2012, 09:09:02 AM »
I'm sure you have important reasons for your phone/GPS needs. I'm just "pulling your chain" as we sometimes say in the Colonies. I fear the these unfamiliar 'Americanisms' may be a bigger problem than your navigation!

My apologies to Smiley for not remembering her nationality! blush-anim-cl.gif But I think being mistaken for Canadian is much better than being confused with most other North American countries!! And I know (virtually, anyway) some nice people who are Canadian!! tease.gif

My main hope is that you have a wonderful experience!!
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« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2012, 03:58:55 AM »
500MB is more than enough. I have a 2 GB data plan with T-Mobile and rarely use more than 500 MB a month, and that's with GPS and turn-by-turn navigation and Web browsing and Netflix and all sorts of other stuff.
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« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2012, 03:30:51 AM »
QUOTE(Xairbusdriver @ Mar 20 2012, 02:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My apologies to Smiley for not remembering her nationality! blush-anim-cl.gif But I think being mistaken for Canadian is much better than being confused with most other North American countries!! And I know (virtually, anyway) some nice people who are Canadian!! tease.gif

Hehehe... I didn't even thought anything about it. Her English is much better and she did went to college and worked in US for some years wink.gif

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500MB is more than enough. I have a 2 GB data plan with T-Mobile and rarely use more than 500 MB a month, and that's with GPS and turn-by-turn navigation and Web browsing and Netflix and all sorts of other stuff.

Wow, thanks Tacit. That's good to know smile.gif

I told you I was going to write down what I did to test the Turn-By-Turn navigation from Google Maps so here it is.
It's a quote from an email I've send to Smiley since she said that two people at her work said you can't use Google Maps without having a data connection constantly on.
But since I feel very smart now, did lots of research on it, I can actually say 'Yes you can' smile.gif

QUOTE(eMail communication with Smiley)
Back to Google Maps.
Yes, most people think you need to have a constant data connection to use Google Maps as it's all being streamed.
But this is not true, you can do without the constant connection as I tested on Monday.

So how to do this:
  1. Go to a (free) wi-fi zone, or make sure you have a data connection to start with (best also to empty Google Maps Cache on your phone first);
  2. Using a connection to the net, plot the destination you need on your phone;
  3. Once the destination is on Google Maps, select 'Navigation'. Google Maps will now plot navigational directions AND download that route to your phone's cache memory! <- This is what people don't realize!
  4. Once the navigation is on your screen, you're ready to go.
  5. You can now even terminate your data connection before heading off if you want to make sure that you are not using any data on the route.

This works!
The only drawback is that you can't navigate too far away from the plotted route as, at some point, the cached maps might not be available on your phone and data connection is needed for those.
For slight detours, it works staying offline.
I actually had this happening when I tested it, Google Maps plotted my way home using Park Way through Hyde Park, while the bus I was on obviously takes the main road.
Once the bus did it's turn, a few seconds later Google Maps re-plotted the route using the road we were on WITHOUT going online (as I switched off my data connection to start with).

One way around this is to cache the area you might going for a detour to your cell phone as well.
Like I showed you yesterday, you can actually cache areas of 10 square miles to your cell phone (without using them in your directions) for offline use.
Pretty neat feature I would say but it needs to be activated through Google Maps Labs.


With this I also want to apologize... I realized a few days ago that this is sooooo NOT apple related!
Even worse, it's a direct competitor wink.gif

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« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2012, 02:40:34 PM »
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I realized a few days ago that this is sooooo NOT apple related!
Don't worry too much about it, your secret is safe with me and all my friends! laughhard.gif And Tim Cook hasn't joined TS, yet, so he probably hasn't seen your posts! I posted some info that lets older iPhones connect and use iCloud Mail/Contacts/Calendars, but I think many others have discovered that way before I posted. And some are even on the Apple "Community" Forums! I suppose I am in the minority of people using older iPhones and not even owning any iPad model! eek2.gif laughhard.gif
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« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2012, 03:20:59 PM »
QUOTE(Mrious_be @ Mar 23 2012, 12:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
With this I also want to apologize... I realized a few days ago that this is sooooo NOT apple related!
Even worse, it's a direct competitor wink.gif

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No apology needed. This is the TECH forum and it's for any and all TECH stuff. We love to offer opinions, err, help. tongue.gif

I noticed that earlier in the thread you mentioned coverage not always being available on the coast roads, and while I can't speak for Hawaii, over here it does come and go on the coast roads -- even with our Garmin. That's the nature of the coast. Still, if you are heading north, don't turn left unless you actually see a town. HAHAHA

Free wi-fi is available all over the place: libraries (and you usually don't even have to go inside), coffee shops and restaurants, book stores, small markets, and on and on.

Congrats on the upcoming wedding and honeymoon.

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« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2012, 08:02:19 AM »
QUOTE(Xairbusdriver @ Mar 23 2012, 07:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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I suppose I am in the minority of people using older iPhones and not even owning any iPad model! eek2.gif laughhard.gif

But at least you're using an iPhone... I'm here flashing my Android device around wink.gif


Thanks Kimmer... and thanks for the 'don't turn left before you see a town' advice tongue.gif

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« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2012, 09:45:40 AM »
QUOTE(Mrious_be @ Mar 26 2012, 09:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks Kimmer... and thanks for the 'don't turn left before you see a town' advice tongue.gif


Wot? No stopping at any of the beaches, parks and sites on the left side of 101, Kimmer? eek2.gif toothgrin.gif

How far up the left coast are you going, Marcel? I'm sure we could oblige with a list of "don't miss" attractions on the um...left side of the road. wink.gif
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« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2012, 02:24:43 PM »
It might be wise to use compass directions rather than "Left" or "Right"! The concern is that turning WEST off 101 will take you closer to the Pacific than turning EAST. Whether that is left or right depends, again, on which direction you are going, as in NORTH or SOUTH! These kinds of "left/right" directions are why men seldom ask a woman for help in find something. Of course, it also means we men are often lost more than we need to be! tomato.gif
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« Reply #25 on: March 26, 2012, 06:15:24 PM »
QUOTE(Paddy @ Mar 26 2012, 06:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Mrious_be @ Mar 26 2012, 09:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks Kimmer... and thanks for the 'don't turn left before you see a town' advice tongue.gif


Wot? No stopping at any of the beaches, parks and sites on the left side of 101, Kimmer? eek2.gif toothgrin.gif

How far up the left coast are you going, Marcel? I'm sure we could oblige with a list of "don't miss" attractions on the um...left side of the road. wink.gif

Well, I'd be cautious about simply turning down "roads" and such as we read about too many folks who drive into the drink because the GPS says "this is the road to the beach", and it's not and off they go. Plus they do caution tourists about making left hand turns against/into traffic when traveling up the coast roads. Just saying. tongue.gif

QUOTE(kimmer @ Mar 23 2012, 12:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's the nature of the coast. Still, if you are heading north, don't turn left unless you actually see a town. HAHAHA


QUOTE(Xairbusdriver @ Mar 26 2012, 11:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It might be wise to use compass directions rather than "Left" or "Right"! The concern is that turning WEST off 101 will take you closer to the Pacific than turning EAST. Whether that is left or right depends, again, on which direction you are going, as in NORTH or SOUTH! These kinds of "left/right" directions are why men seldom ask a woman for help in find something. Of course, it also means we men are often lost more than we need to be! tomato.gif


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« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2012, 11:57:48 AM »
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emphasis is mine, but nothing changed from original post
"Emphsis" is all well and good, but you didn't tell him which way to turn if he is going in the opposite direction! Once again indicating the increasing use of GPS over "asking a woman!" rolleyes.gif Remember, what is left unsaid can cause
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« Reply #27 on: April 11, 2012, 07:44:50 AM »
Lol Guys tongue.gif

So here's the trip we're doing, it's a link to my Google Maps.
The original thought was to do most of this, but now we're thinking of driving to SF, stay there and move out in different directions and visit places.

The link has some highlighted points of interest... so now you know smile.gif

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&...bd6349da9e663ac


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« Reply #28 on: April 11, 2012, 09:40:28 AM »
I think the link needs a little editing. The second line (above) probably has the specifics that will show the items mentioned in the text but it is not part of the actual link. At least I'm not getting much besides a general map of the lower 48... dntknw.gif

I think <this link> works, however. Yep! Looks like a fun trip! Don't forget to take time to enjoy the scenery! And try meeting some 'locals!' yes.gif
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« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2012, 11:00:30 AM »
QUOTE(Xairbusdriver @ Apr 11 2012, 03:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the link needs a little editing. The second line (above) probably has the specifics that will show the items mentioned in the text but it is not part of the actual link. At least I'm not getting much besides a general map of the lower 48... dntknw.gif

I think <this link> works, however. Yep! Looks like a fun trip! Don't forget to take time to enjoy the scenery! And try meeting some 'locals!' yes.gif


Yes, the link broke it seems but thanks for repairing it  thumbup.gif
Counting down and starting to get somewhat nervous now...

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