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Apple triumphs over Samsung
« on: August 24, 2012, 07:29:56 PM »
Apple triumphs over Samsung, awarded over $1 billion damages
http://news.yahoo.com/jury-reaches-verdict...61--sector.html
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Apple triumphs over Samsung
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2012, 07:46:13 PM »
Just a wee bit different in the outcome in the US of A than in Korea. Aye? OTOH, that Apple 'won' anything in Korea means there were some obvious stealing by Samsung, in my opinion.

I suppose we'll have to wait a while till the fat lady stops singing, also... rolleyes.gif
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« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2012, 04:32:49 PM »
Apparently things aren't all that consistent in this verdict:

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The jury appears to have awarded damages for the Galaxy Tab 10.1 LTE infringing — $219,694 worth — but didn't find that it had actually infringed anything....A similar inconsistency exists for the Intercept, for which they'd awarded Apple over $2 million

Intercept: "The jury found no direct infringement but did find inducement" for the '915 and '163 utility patents. If a device didn't infringe, it would be rather hard for a company to induce said non-existant infringement.

They didn't want to get bogged down in facts about "prior art" according to one of the jurors:
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"It didn't dawn on us [that we agreed that Samsung had infringed] on the first day," Ilagan said. "We were debating heavily, especially about the patents on bounce back and pinch-to-zoom. Apple said they owned patents, but we were debating about the prior art [about the same technology that Samsung said existed before the iPhone debuted]. [Velvin Hogan] was jury foreman. He had experience. He owned patents himself. In the beginning the debate was heated, but it was still civil. Hogan holds patents, so he took us through his experience. After that it was easier. After we debated that first patent -- what was prior art --because we had a hard time believing there was no prior art, that there wasn't something out there before Apple.

"In fact we skipped that one," Ilagan continued, "so we could go on faster. It was bogging us down." ...

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2012082510525390


Later stuff:

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For example, this by Craig Timberg and Haley Tsukayama in the August 29 Washington Post: “Friday’s $1 billion court ruling for Apple, which upheld patents for what manufacturers call ‘pinch to zoom,’ among other popular features, has clouded the future of the gesture for anyone inclined to buy mobile devices from other companies. Apple made clear its determination to press its advantage Monday, announcing plans to seek preliminary injunctions on eight phones made by Samsung, the loser in the case.”

There’s one serious problem with the first sentence, which was repeated dozens of times in stories in print and on the Web. Apple only has a limited patent (US 7,812,826) on the pinch to shrink, stretch to zoom gesture that is a core element of touch interfaces. And the ’826 patent wasn’t in dispute in the Samsung case because Apple never asserted it. In fact, this particular patent does not seem to be in dispute in any litigation.

http://techpinions.com/pinch-to-zoom-and-r...-didnt-say/9465
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