Firefox 3.6.26 wont load Safeway specials. . .

[beacher]

I've belonged to Safeway's "Just For You" club for the last few months, and get weekly specials through the Yahoo mail; click on the link and it would take me right there.  About 3 weeks ago, it started taking me to the site, but will not load the specials.  So, I've been using Safari, and it works, and if I cut and past the address from Safari to Firefox, it works fine.  So, I can deal with this, but it's inconvenient (isn't it funny how our notions of "inconvenient" change, over the years?  ) and I'd like to figure out why it's doing this. . . Any ideas?  As usual,   : in advance!

[Xairbusdriver]

Open the email and choose "View->Message->Raw Source" Find the url associated with the link you've been using. Copy and Paste that text into FF, without going to Safari first. Does the link work properly?

[beacher]

Well. . . ummmm. . . I don't know what the heck I'm looking for in that mishmash of stuff, Jim.  I know it's not the "From", and probably not the "Return", and I assume that it's not the "authentication-results", but that leaves an immense amount of "gobblegook". . . Any hints?  Well, here:


From Safeway just for U Thu Feb 14 06:33:38 2013
X-Apparently-To: (Ed's email address) via 66.218.75.207; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 06:33:39 -0800
Return-Path: <bo-b7y985wbdw9vawau0ddj5qdsk5cv1y@b.subscribers.safeway.com>
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Received: from 127.0.0.1  (EHLO mta414.safeway.chtah.com) (208.49.63.148)
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Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:33:38 -0000
Message-ID: <b7y985wbdw9vawau0ddj5qdsk5cv1y.14730490510.8472@mta414.subscribers.safeway.co
>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:rm-0b7y985wbdw9vawau0ddj5qdsk5cv1y@subscribers.safeway.com>
From: "Safeway just for U" <Safeway@subscribers.safeway.com>
To: (Ed's email address)
Subject: New Savings are Here!
MIME-Version: 1.0
Reply-To: "Safeway" <support-b7y985wbdw9vawau0ddj5qdsk5cv1y@subscribers.safeway.com>
Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=b7y985wbdw9vawau0ddj5qdsk5cv1y"
Content-Length: 92140

That's what I got. . .


(Edited by krissel to remove Ed's email address)

[Xairbusdriver]

I don't see any URL in that, just a couple of email addresses. That looks like the Header with an image stuck in it!

Also, please edit out your email address, it's shown in several places. When I asked you to look in the raw source, I should have said "the body of the message" the header doesn't (normally) have anything of value for what i was looking for.

Here is part of a message with two links in it:
First, what I see in Mail (with some editing):

QUOTE

About this e-mail:

This email was sent by: NPR, 635 Massachusetts Ave., NW, Washington, DC 20001-3753. This message was sent to mYnAME@xyz.com. To modify your email communication preferences or update your personal profile, visit your subscription management page at:
Communications Preferences

To stop receiving the Planet Money Blog newsletter, unsubscribe using the following link:
Unsubscribe

Here is what the raw source would look like:

QUOTE

About this e-mail:

This email was sent by: NPR, 635 Massachusetts Ave., NW, Washington, DC =
20001-3753. This message was sent to=20=
mYnAME@xyz.com=
. To modify your email communication preferences or update your personal =
profile, visit your subscription management page at:
http://n.npr.org/NPRI/jN381817968_1602106_1602000_Z.htm

To stop receiving the Planet Money Blog newsletter, unsubscribe using =
the following link:
http://n.npr.org/NPRI/jN381817968_1602107_1602000_Z.htm

It's those "http://n.npr...." parts (bolded) that I was looking for. They often include information about your ID/Username/Registration info at the site they send you to. It often is in plain English, right after a "?" in the URL. That info may be in that header, somewhere, but without knowing what it should be, I don't know. Plus, I don't see how it is being sent with your link usage, assuming there is nothing in the body that even looks like a link. Was what you displayed above the entire message (and no need to repeat the above text, of course)

[beacher]

Well, thanks for giving it a try, Jim; nothing I do shows how the links are embedded; it's just a bunch of pics and prices, and a link that says, "Sign in" on an arrow, but it doesn't take me to where it should!

[kimmer]

Beacher, I get the emails and don't have a prob -- but I'm not using Yahoo mail. I'll forward the latest safeway for u email to my yahoo addy and see how it works. I'll report back tomorrow.

[kimmer]

Reporting back ...

Apparently Yahoo mail doesn't think we should see the html code in the body as I couldn't find a way to do that, but I might have missed it. Looking at the code via Thunderbird, I suspect it is embedded images being used as links, and it might be your older browser can't handle them -- but I'm not an expert on that.

Also I had no issues with Safeway for U in Yahoo mail, but I'm running a way newer browser than you are (and I tried this in FF, Safari and Chrome).

Now, a possible solution:

Beacher, at the very top of the emails I have these links:

Sign in to just for U | View with images | View text version

Clicking "view text version" opens the email in a new browser page and leaves me with a real barebones version that shows the text version of specials and will at least get me to the Safeway site to log in. Try that and see if that helps.

[beacher]

Thanks, Kimmer; I gave it a shot, but. . . No joy.    Ah well, as long as Safari keeps working for me, I'm OK!

[Gary S]

beacher,

You say you are running Firefox 3.6.26.

I just checked the version on my iMac running 10.6.8 and it's version 19.0.  

Can you upgrade?

[beacher]

Unfortunately not, Gary.  I'm using a . . . Oh jeez, I just realized that I've had this G5 Quad for 7 years!  Anyway, the OS is 10.5.8 running Leopard, and I can't go any further with updates, because it is a PPC (Motorola chip set) rather than Intel.  So, I'm just stuck with what I've got, and, for the most part, other than a few sites that pop a window telling me I'm using an updated browser, which I close and their pages load just fine, I can't find a reason to upgrade (read, "Spend the $!") to a new computer.  Jeez, I'd have to spend a fortune on software and upgrades besides the cost of the computer!  Net speed has not increased, since this computer runs at 2.5 Ghz, so, again. . . And, $ are tight around here, since the economic crash of 2008 reduced my guitar teaching load by 75%!  Good thing I'm used to "living low on the hog"!  

[Xairbusdriver]

beacher, have you tried any of the <9 PPC browsers listed here>? TenFourFox looks to be the most up-to-date; HTML5 capable!

[beacher]

Very cool, Jim; thanks!

[Paddy]

Not that I'm trying to talk you into a new 'puter or anything, Beacher, but um, "net speed" has definitely increased in the last seven years, assuming you're referring to the computer's speed, not the speed of the internet!! Of course, much depends on what you're actually doing - the difference will be much more noticeable with processor-intensive activities.

Geekbench score for the fastest 2.5GHz quad G5: 3516 http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1680565
Geekbench score for a current Mac Pro (3.06GHz, 2 processors, 12 core): 22141 http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1671157

A 2.66GHz dual processor, 12 core MacPro from 2010 is not far off the current crop either at a score of 20385 http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1680610

So...clock speeds may not have increased substantially, but the overall speed of these Macs certainly has - something I can attest to anecdotally simply from comparing my mid-2012 MacBook Pro to my now aging Mac Pro. It's quite noticeable in things like Photoshop (which is borne out by the Geekbench scores for image manipulation)

Geekbench scores:
My Mac Pro: 5816 http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1680687
My MacBook Pro: 13041 http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1681684

And if you were actually referring to the speed of the internet, I don't know about you, but the download speed has increased substantially 'round here. Max was 6Mbps when we moved here in 2007. Now it's something crazy like 250Mbps down AND up in some places (test markets) and we're getting 45Mbps down and 4 up. I'd love to test a 250Mbps connection - must be almost instantaneous!

Anyway - just don't go driving a new Mac at the store and you'll be fine. (It's like test driving the new car instead of the used one you went to try at the dealership... )

[beacher]

Well, yeah, you're right, Paddy; I was talking about computers and not net speed, but this computer pretty much does what I need it to do by the time that I take my finger off the button, so, truly, I don't think that the processing speed increase overcomes the law of diminishing returns, and a new computer would certainly diminish my wallet!    It's kind of like the motorcycle thing: my bike can go from 0-60 in 2.6 seconds; there are faster bikes out there, but, really. . .  "Devil, get thee behind me!"