Need help with Finder OS 8.6

[chrisharjo]

Help my OS 8.6 finder keeps crashing I even put in the Chakaranda'sFinder8.6patch and it still crashes it is random and just start 2 days ago. Here is my ASP report if that helps:
Software overview
   Mac OS overview
      Finder:   8.6
      System:   8.6  US
      Active enabler:   None
      At Ease:   Not installed
      QuickTime:   6.0.2
      File sharing:   is off
   Startup device
      Name:   MacHD1
      Type:   Hard drive
      Location:   ID = 0
      Bus:   SCSI Bus 0
Memory overview
   Disk cache:   7.96 MB
   Virtual memory:   is off
   Built-in memory:   576 MB
      Location            Size           Memory type
      B4          128 MB   DIMM
      A4          16 MB    DIMM
      B3          64 MB    DIMM
      A3          16 MB    DIMM
      B2          128 MB   DIMM
      A2          32 MB    DIMM
      B1          128 MB   DIMM
      A1          64 MB    DIMM
   External L2 cache:   Not installed
Hardware overview
   Machine ID:   69
   Model name:   Power Macintosh 8600 series
   Keyboard type:   Apple Extended Keyboard
   Processor info:   PowerPC G3
   Machine speed:   400 MHz
   FPU:   Built-in
   Devices and Volumes
   USB 0   1.4.1
      Best Data 56USB V.90 Modem              
         Product ID:   29810 ($7472)
         Vendor:   Vendor 5014 (Best Data           )
         Driver version:   1.0d1
         Driver name:   Smart One 56USB Modem
         Power (mA):   500 ($1f4)
         Serial number:   
      Mouse (Trackball)
         Product ID:   -15358 ($c402)
         Vendor:   Logitech Inc. (Logitech)
         Driver version:   1.4.1
         Driver name:   USBHIDMouseDriver
         Power (mA):   500 ($1f4)
         Serial number:   
   SCSI Bus 0
      ID = 0
            Hard drive
               Driver version:   8.1.2f1
               Mac OS partitions:   1
               Removable media:   No
               Vendor:   SEAGATE
               Revision number:   0720
               Product ID:   ST15230W SUN4.2G
               Serial number:   
               Unformatted size:   4 GB
            
               MacHD1
                  Volume format:   Mac OS Standard (HFS)
                  Size:   4 GB
                  Space Available:   3.17 GB
                  Percent full:   20
                  Write protected:   No
                  Is being file shared:   No
      ID = 1
            Hard drive
               Driver version:   8.1.2f1
               Mac OS partitions:   1
               Removable media:   No
               Vendor:   QUANTUM
               Revision number:   300Z
               Product ID:   FIREBALL_TM2100S
               Serial number:   399705667291
               Unformatted size:   2 GB
            
               Mac HD2
                  Volume format:   Mac OS Standard (HFS)
                  Size:   2 GB
                  Space Available:   1.26 GB
                  Percent full:   36
                  Write protected:   No
                  Is being file shared:   No
      ID = 3
            CD-ROM drive
               Driver version:   Not available
               Mac OS partitions:   0
               Removable media:   Yes
               Vendor:   MATSHITA
               Revision number:   1.0g
               Product ID:   CD-ROM CR-8012  
               Serial number:   
            
               No mounted media inserted
      ID = 5
            Removable media
               Driver version:   Not available
               Mac OS partitions:   0
               Removable media:   Yes
               Vendor:   IOMEGA  
               Revision number:   E.11
               Product ID:   ZIP 100        
               Serial number:   
            
               No mounted media inserted
   SCSI Bus 1
      ID = 0
            Hard drive
               Driver version:   8.1.2f1
               Mac OS partitions:   1
               Removable media:   No
               Vendor:   QUANTUM
               Revision number:   24A4
               Product ID:   LIGHTNING 730S  
               Serial number:   227518623493
               Unformatted size:   699 MB
            
               external
                  Volume format:   Mac OS Standard (HFS)
                  Size:   698.73 MB
                  Space Available:   644.60 MB
                  Percent full:   7
                  Write protected:   No
                  Is being file shared:   No
         Slot
            Vendor:   HP      
            Revision number:   3503
            Product ID:   C2520A          
            Serial number:   
   PCI
      Slot $A1
            USB card
               Card type:   usb
               Card name:   pci1045,c861
               Card model:   Not available
               Card ROM #:   Not available
               Card revision:   16
               Card vendor ID:   1045
   Floppy
      No mounted media inserted
   Video
         Display
            Screen Size (pixels):   1024 x 768
            Grays/Colors:   Millions
            Resolution (dpi):   72 x 72
            Additional Information:   Main screen

[krissel]

First line of attack is to trash finder, ASLM, Mac OS and system preferences.

Run disk first aid.

Try disconnecting any peripherals while working.

Do anything different two days ago, like add some software?

Any particular reason you aren't running OS 9? I know 8.6 was very stable but if you are running newer apps they may be happier with 9.

BTW, you may try interleaving your Ram by placing them in matching pairs, that is, putting two 128 chips in A1, B1, two 64 chips in A2, B2 and so on. This is not in response to the crashing problem but may give you an added boost in speed.

[chrisharjo]

for the suggestions, I will try the Ram thing. I run 8.6 because I have the full version 8.5 cd been looking for a cheap up grade to 9.1, the holidays have drained the wallet for a couple of monthes and I plan on getting a Motherboard up grade for my Performa 6400 and maybe a desktop G3 266mhz. Looks like I will have to reinstall again, the last thing I did a week ago was fix some bad sectors on the hard drive and reinstall the OS, I did a low level format before reinstall. Were can I save the bookmarks for IE 5.1?

[kelly]

Christopher. Have you done anything about the OS 8.6 Font problems?

Mentioned here.

http://www.macworld.com/1999/10/secrets/secrets/

A fix can be found here.

http://askal.asecureserver.com:591/FMPro?-...99&-Max=1&-find

[kelly]

You can get OS 9.1 for $39.99

http://eshop.macsales.com/Catalog_Item.cfm...&Item=APLOS91CD

[chuckwagen]

Maybe a bad RAM chip? I agree with the OS9 upgrade suggestion, too..

[tacit]

Are you using Norton DiskLight, ACTION Files or ACTION Menus? They are known to cause Finder crashes under 8.6.

Have you tried running with only Apple extensions enabled? If that solves your problem, you have a bad third-party extension or control panel.

Have you installed the OS 8.6 Font Manager Update extension? This is absolutely required if you use 8.6.

[Bernie]

http://www.applerescue.com/catalog.html

[krissel]

Didn't mention the Font Manager cause I figured you would have done that by now but I guess I shouldn't assume such things.  

As for the favorites from IE, you can save the file which is located in the System folder/Preferences/Explorer. In fact you could save the whole folder but not the cache.

[chrisharjo]

Thanks for the help! I did a reinstall and reinstalled my applications working fine right now. I tried everything suggest but no success or sleep. I am going to try the RAM setup suggested earlier and I will post the results.
 

[kelly]

Don't forget to fix those Fonts. Seriously.

[Gary S]

Chris,

When did you install Chakaranda's Mac OS 8.6 Finder Patch? I don't know what it exactly is but
from what I read on the MacWorld site, it modifies the Finder in some way. You may want to get rid of that.

I would make sure you apply that Font Manager update... it's real important. You mat want to run "Corrupted FOND Fixer Utility" - you can get it at Alsoft in Kelly' link:



Alsoft Fond Fixer and Font manager update

[kelly]

IMO. That Finder Patch is harmless Gary.

[Gary S]

Well then that ain't it Kelly.