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Offline Xairbusdriver

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« on: March 12, 2003, 10:27:00 AM »
No, I don't need help installing/using/unistalling/finding drivers/etc. on/about/for X. But I have been told that the site I work on crashes Safari, even after running the HTML and CSS through the validators.     So...

Can any of you OS X user's give me a site check and tell me of any problems with your browser. I'd like to have a screen shot, the browser name and version, and, if possible, if using Classic helps.

TIA. Here's the URL.

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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2003, 10:42:00 AM »
Jim, No problem using 10.2.4, IE 5.2.2 on a DP 800. Classic was not running.

I randomly checked many (but not all) links and they all connected/appeared just fine.

As far as I can tell, your site is Jag and IE (shudder) friendly.

A screen shot of what I could capture is on the way.

Harv
 
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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2003, 11:33:00 PM »
If it's any help, fine in IE5.1.6 on OS9.1 (loaded fast on dial-up too)
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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2003, 12:41:00 PM »
Crashes Safari instantly on loading.
10.2.4
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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2003, 02:01:00 PM »
...same as bobw.....

Crashes Safari instantly on loading.
10.2.4
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« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2003, 02:55:00 PM »
Hi Airbusdriver,

I'm running Mozilla 1.3b (linux) and the page shows fine. I have a suggestion though. Can you post a couple of URLs to internal/subpages...the pages you link to from the main page?

If Safari users go to those pages first, do they still crash? If not, then compare the source code on the mail page to those and see what might be different.

I looked at the code and while I don't see anything wrong with it, it maybe that your version of CSS just isn't Safari friendly ...Safari not being fully fledged yet. Stating the version of CSS and tighting up your HTML so that it is "strict" not "loose" might help. For the best cross browser compatibility, stick to CSS1 although you might get away with a few things in CSS2

The one thing that I noticed that is broken is the links to e-mail at the bottom, where you have multiple people defined to get the message. In Mozilla, clicking there puts your e-mail address in the to: box, but all the others become part of the subject line along with the part you mean to be the subject.
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« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2003, 06:03:00 PM »
In 9.1. Both Netscape (7.02) and I.E. (5.1.6) work fine, and on 10.2.4 the same results Netscape (7.02), I.E. (5.2.2) both load fine, now Safari, 1.0 Beta, crash! Hope it helps!
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« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2003, 07:11:00 PM »
My trusty old G4 running 9.2.2 and NScape 4.75 shows your site perfectly, and fast, the pictures are great.  Nice.
Me?  OS X?  Not yet,,,,,
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« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2003, 08:24:00 PM »
IE 5.2.2. in OSX 10.2.4. loaded fine Jim but Safari quit so fast,not even sure it started to load the page.?.

I combined the Safari quit onto the IE snapshot.
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« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2003, 09:33:00 PM »
Jim; it looks great with Camino (Chimera),  I havent tried it with safari yet but will also Omniweb.

Oky doky on Omniweb.  Camino loaded slow (very unusual) one line near they top was overlapped 50% on the line above, but otherwise looked fine.  Nice site.  
 
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« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2003, 11:15:00 PM »
10.2.4 and the Safari went down like a bolt of lightning hit it.
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« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2003, 11:56:00 PM »
Hey, Jim:

Am sending you two screen shots from my Pismo, running 10.2.4 (w/Classic in the background) 640MB, 15+" display, 1024 x 768 and millions of colors . . .

1) NS 7.0.2
2) IE 5.2.2

Both loaded in a flash, literally, both stable.

I scrolled the site. NO prob-lem(s)

Yers truly
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« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2003, 05:46:00 PM »
All I really wanted was reports of failures. But like he said, "It's hard not knowing!" That is it hard to know what the thing is supposed to look like if you can't see it!    

It seems Safari is the only browser that crashes. Here are a couple of links to internal pages, but I'm not sure that will really help. Most og the pages are made from the same 'template.'  But there are obviously differences. We'll see.

Been busy fixing those e-mail links and fixing the fixes after I got a little too fast with the copy and paste routine!    (makes a good case for learning GREP!) Most should work correctly now, however, I also worked on the tax stuff today and I'm not completely recovered!    

I'll consider your 'strict' suggestion, Diana, but have heard that can also lead to other problems with some browsers. The CSS is validated under version one, but even that doesn't help when a user has NS 4! All the pages vaidated as HTML (loose) and CSS1. Only 2 'warnings' in the CSS, and that is because of a 'hack' to get IE to work correctly. It is quite widely used and the only one I have in there. Apparently it is not causing problems for any version of IE. Safari may be another question!

Oh yeah the 'internal links':
The following pages are very similar -
Events (only table in the site)
About Us (mostly text)
Plans (a large animated gif)
Snapshots (oodles of thumnails/links)
Construction (more thumnails/links)

These pages have a much different 'page menu' (really none) which may be the Safari problem:
panorama view 1
panarma view 2

Jim C.
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« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2003, 07:33:00 PM »
Jim, the mystery deepens...all the other pages load just fine in Safari - EXCEPT "About Us" - which causes the instant quits described by others for the index page. Hmmm....there is something in those two pages that Safari is NOT happy about. At least that narrows it down a bit...
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« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2003, 07:55:00 PM »
Thanks Paddy! That really may help! Will take a closer look at them tomorrow!

I have also discovered another ASCII coding error that may slip by some e-mail clients but needs fixing. Apparently Eudora doesn't mind a "&" in place of a "?" for delimiting an e-mail  header! Others may be more perskickerty (kbear/weldiger can spel cheque that wun)    

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