How did you partition your Hard Drive for OSX and OS9

[Gary S]

I was just wondering how some of you dealt with either partitioning your Hard Drives or using additional drives to deal
with having OS X.2 and OS9.2.2 on your computer System. I'll have a 60Gig hard drive to deal with. I have no idea what will be on it when I get it.

I know I want to have at least a partition with just OS9.2.2 to boot to so I can run my old apps along with  Classic.

Maybe someone has a link or two.

I know this topic has been brought up before but.....I'm searching the archives.

In the meantime i thought I'd post this in case anyone has come up with better solutions.

TIA
 
 [ 03-07-2003, 01:22 PM: Message edited by: Gary S ]

[Gary S]

I noticed how Petra has 3 different Volumes or drives to boot from in the Desktop thread.

 Petra's Desktop with 3 Volumes

[Smokin78]

Now this is something I would like to know as well.  After my last knock down, drag out with OSX, I don't want to have to go throught it again.

[Mayo]

In my experience there is no problem partitioning a drive and installing whatever OS you want to on the partitions, as long as the ROM supports the OS.  That includes installing OS X on one partition and an earlier OS on another partition.

All you have to do is decide how big the individual partitions will be.

[CyberPet]

Dunno what computer you're getting Gary, but it shouldn't be a problem at all to make as many partitions you want (I have a friend with a 20GB disk and he has SEVEN partitions *giggles*).

When you get the new computer it'll have OS X and OS 9 installed on the same partition. But you can with the CD (or DVD) that comes with the computer run Disk Utilities and erase the pre-installed system, partition the harddrive and re-install the software.

Just make sure your computer will support to boot into OS 9, any model released after december 31st 2002 is not going to boot into OS 9, it'll only run Classic within OS X.

Got more questions? Ask and I'll try to help!  

/Petra

[Paddy]

Gary, I have my 60GB drive in my Powerbook partitioned in 3 - 30GB for OS X (applications and documents), 8GB for OS 9 and the rest for "storage" - in which will be my duplicate of my OS X set up on my Sawtooth, once I get 10.2.4 installed on it. Right now, I just have the Documents folder on my Sawtooth duplicated on the Powerbook, as everything else can be reinstalled in the event of disaster.

I'm still working up to the installation of that 120GB drive in the Sawtooth (it always falls off the daily priority list!!) and will partition that into 3 probably - one big partition for X which will be the main working partition, one small one for 9, and another one for storage. May also designate a smallish (relatively speaking) for scratch disk for Photoshop. Probably something like 60-10-40-10GB... I will also reformat my 45GB IBM drive, proabably into 2 - one OS X and one OS 9 partition - with the OS X partition a backup for my OS X on the 120 GB drive. That way, I'll be backed up internally (to two different drives) but if things go really bad with the Sawtooth, the Powerbook will have everything too - which is also nice when I take it to meetings etc. I downloaded some shareware called IMSafe ($15) a few weeks ago, and apart from messing up the first backup (don't ask - user stupidity, not the software) it should help me keep everything synched. CarbonCopyCloner ($5 shareware) will do the heavy lifting when I need to copy an entire bootable volume. Not bad for a grand total of $20!

When you get your new G4, it will no doubt have everything (OS X & 9) all on one unpartitioned drive. First order of business is to wipe, partition and reinstall operating systems. That's what I did with my Powerbook. And then I did it again...wasn't happy with the first set up!      

Wait 'til you try Safari and Chimera (now called "Camino" - new release as of today) on a new G4! Zooooom! I do most of my web browsing on my Powerbook right now - it's just too painful by comparison with IE on my old Sawtooth in 10.1.5. Hoping that will improve with the move to Jag, but also contemplating a 1 GHz upgrade card for the old beast. Unfortunately, a similar contemplation of my bank account isn't particularly encouraging! We'll see.

[taliesin]

I'm still happy with my current  set-up , Gary, but have for now misplaced the thread where the 'Save' partition worked out fine (and got a new DiskWarrior disk since then).
Were I to change anything and had the extra space you've got, I'd make the OS X partition bigger.
If anybody's starting out, it was you who sent me here  in the first place. An oldie but still among the besties.

[Gary S]

Thanks everyone.    

You people are great!

Petra,
I'll be getting a QuickSilver G4-933, it's in the hands of UPS shipping right now and is on it's way.    I'm excited. It is bootable in OSX and OS9.2.2, that's one the main reasons why I purchased this particular model.

I'll probably be setting it up next week some time.

I have 5 partitions on my Beige G3 right now so I'm familiar with partitioning. I am new to X.2 though and I know I'll want a 9.2.2 booting partition to fall back on while I'm experimenting.

I'd just like to measure twice and cut once, as the carpenters say. Get it as close to what I want the first time.    

I was impressed with your Desktop Petra. I figured it needed another link to it.

[Bill]

"I'd just like to measure twice and cut once, as the carpenters say"

Not the folks who built this stick house. Think they were more into flipping Heads or Tails.

[CyberPet]

Gary, then there's no worries!  

My 3 partitions is set up like this:

Mac OS X: 48.23 GB
Mac OS 9: 4.6 GB
Classic 9: 3 GB

The smallest is the Classic partition, I don't use it much but I want it slimmed down to boot fast. The Mac OS 9 partition is a tad larger, but it also have all the extensions etc I need to run a REAL OS 9 version with all the support for DVD, USB etc etc. The Mac OS 9 partition is also free from the Mac OS X extensions that the Classic partition has (I don't trust the interaction between the two).

To be honest I haven't booted up in OS 9 for a few weeks and I have run Classic once during the same time. I use OS X 99.99% of the time.

/Petra

[RobW]

Hi Gary,

I've only got the 20 gig hard drive. I have:

OSX: 12gb

OS 9.2:  6gb

Documents/work folders (which is actually where we have our work folders--including old saved stuff from before):  2 gigs

Gary, I've been surprised to find that so far I've only booted into OS9 about 3 times. For the most part, I forget OS9 is even there.

Your mileage may vary.      

Jeez, I'm getting excited for you getting the new machine.                Is Sam gonna let you play with it from time to time??
 
 [ 03-07-2003, 08:58 PM: Message edited by: RobW ]

[gmann]

Gary S
I have the 933 with two partitions. 10.2.4 on approx. 50 Gigs and 9.2.2 on the other 10.  I have no need to have a partition for classic.  If I open 9.2.2 and click on a 9.x app, classic auto starts. Hope this helps.

Incidently; I have a 30 Gig slave drive that still has 10.1.5 and 9.2.2 on it. It has never been partitioned,  but has several of my earlier apps on it going back to 8.5.  I havent been there in ages, perhaps I should check and see if it is still there.  
 
 [ 03-07-2003, 10:04 PM: Message edited by: gmann ]

[Bill]

Btw,did you ever find out about the cds when you called?

Basically the same as gmann here Gary S.

One partition for OS 9.2.2.

You can either boot into that partition or assign classic to head that way.

[Thomas S. England]

I made my partition devoted to OS X too small, I now realize at only 6 gigs. It is one of three partitions.

Am I correct that Macs do not offer a way to resize these partitions without first zeroing out the data?

I have an external drive which I can use with enough space to move all three partitions' worth of stuff, which would let me resize, I suppose. but it seems that any move like that has consequences such as scripts no longer recognizing paths, or iTunes needing to re-import everything.

Is there an easy way?

[Mayo]

Unlike Windoze (I think) the only way to create a bigger partition is to reformat the drive.

Sorry 'bout that...