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« Reply #45 on: November 19, 2013, 07:11:22 PM »
Yes, you are missing something. Of course, it could just my lack of communications skills. Note that I put quotation marks on either side if the word 'style.' It is not capitalized, I did not say it was a label for anything. I simply stated that the list of items in that left-hand panel shows the various "styles" of screen saver methods/displays; the way the images, no matter where they come from, are displayed and change on the screen. Thus the "style" of the screen savers. Just click on one and you can preview that style in the larger area to the right of the list. Just click and watch. This ia a Mac, you won't break it by clicking the buttons/icons/menus. smile.gif

OK, this may take a bit longer, I can't get the add an image controls to appear, I'll upload the examples to DropBox and point to them. That'll save TS disk space, anyway. wink.gif

OK, here is what I see when clicking the "Source:" label:

[attachment=2929:Desktop_...n_window.jpg]

Now, selecting the "Photo library..." item gives me the following:
[attachment=2930:Desktop_...ce_sheet.jpg]

So you can plainly see that access to your iPhoto images is still there. The "Shuffle slide order" replaces the "Random" choice for the selected images. And there is a 'Random' "style" available that will cycle through all the built-in screen saver styles with the images you have selected.

Bottom line, what more can you want in a useless function for LCD monitors? dntknw.gif
« Last Edit: November 19, 2013, 07:30:01 PM by Xairbusdriver »
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« Reply #46 on: November 19, 2013, 07:27:13 PM »
Arggghhhh
I am getting to damn old to be able to communicate, so here we go, look at this and click on all 3 of the links and you will see what I mean.
Do please please look at the mov as that will show what the heck I am talking about.
And see the screenshot from the old computers with the 3 options on where the red pointer Ive put in, and then look at the one from Mavericks where that is NOT there!

http://www.jcarter.net/mosaic-screensaver/
Here is my link, click on the mov first please,,,,
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« Reply #47 on: November 19, 2013, 07:28:13 PM »
In the FWIW category ...

I stopped using a screen saver a few years back, so I hadn't looked at the system pref panel for that -- but I just did.

I'm running 10.8.5 and I do NOT have the options that Jane shows back in post #38 of this thread.
post:
http://www.techsurvivors.net/forums/index....st&p=197858

Her attachment:
http://www.techsurvivors.net/forums/index....ost&id=2924

So I had Sneakers check his iMac. He's running 10.6.x and does have that option. So the ability to mosaic whatever pictures you've selected disappeared between 10.6 and 10.8, not with 10.9.

I don't think screen savers are useless. They provide entertainment, and if a user wants them, then they have a useful function. Just sayin'. wink.gif

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« Reply #48 on: November 19, 2013, 07:35:13 PM »
QUOTE(Xairbusdriver @ Nov 19 2013, 08:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes, you are missing something. Of course, it could just my lack of communications skills. Note that I put quotation marks on either side if the word 'style.' It is not capitalized, I did not say it was a label for anything. I simply stated that the list of items in that left-hand panel shows the various "styles" of screen saver methods/displays; the way the images, no matter where they come from, are displayed and change on the screen. Thus the "style" of the screen savers. Just click on one and you can preview that style in the larger area to the right of the list. Just click and watch. This ia a Mac, you won't break it by clicking the buttons/icons/menus. smile.gif

OK, this may take a bit longer, I can't get the add an image controls to appear, I'll upload the examples to DropBox and point to them. That'll save TS disk space, anyway. wink.gif

OK, here is what I see when clicking the "Source:" label:
[attachment=2929:Desktop_...n_window.jpg]

Now, selecting the "Photo library..." item gives me the following:
[attachment=2930:Desktop_...ce_sheet.jpg]

So you can plainly see that access to your iPhoto images is still there. The "Shuffle slide order" replaces the "Random" choice for the selected images. And there is a 'Random' "style" available that will cycle through all the built-in screen saver styles with the images you have selected.

Bottom line, what more can you want in a useless function for LCD monitors? dntknw.gif



OK, ok!! This is starting to get interesting (if somewhat maddening).....

If I click on the "source" button I get:-
[attachment=2931:Screen_S...26.11_PM.png]
It occurs to me that the difference may be that I a) don't have Aperture and b) I am using iPhoto '09.
What version of iPhoto are you using?

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« Reply #49 on: November 19, 2013, 07:36:05 PM »
I give up. I couldn't care less that I can't see something called "mosaic" in the styles list. Instead there are 21 choices of displaying whatever pictures from where ever you have them. If you call watching images flash by your screen 'entertaining' you don't have enough to do. tongue.gif Screen savers are useless because LED displays don't "burn in" light phosphorescent monitors did. I quit. Not the least because this software will now not allow me to post a link to a DropBox image exactly as I did in another thread just yesterday!I give up. I couldn't care less that I can't see something called "mosaic" in the styles list. Instead there are 21 choices of displaying whatever pictures from where ever you have them. If you call watching images flash by your screen 'entertaining' you don't have enough to do. tongue.gif Screen savers are useless because LED displays don't "burn in" light phosphorescent monitors did. I quit. Not the least because this software will now not allow me to post a link to a DropBox image exactly as I did in another thread just yesterday!
THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF COUNTRIES
Those that use metric = #1 Measurement system
And the United States = The Banana system
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« Reply #50 on: November 19, 2013, 07:41:12 PM »
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I am using iPhoto '09.
What version of iPhoto are you using?
Who said I use it?! laughhard.gif I just happen to have it installed and it's version 9.5.

Did you try selecting the "Choose folder..." item? Did you see both images above?

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« Last Edit: November 19, 2013, 07:42:03 PM by Xairbusdriver »
THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF COUNTRIES
Those that use metric = #1 Measurement system
And the United States = The Banana system
CAUTION! Childhood vaccinations cause adults! :yes:

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« Reply #51 on: November 19, 2013, 07:48:07 PM »
It was a simple question.....

iPhoto 9.5?    Thank you!!   wallbash.gif

I am trying to account for the difference between your and my "source" menu display...   Near as I can make out so far it has to do with iPhoto version (and Aperture).

Don't bail on us just when it is getting interesting.......

Selecting the "Choose folder..." item simply gets a standard Finder "Choose" dialog.
« Last Edit: November 19, 2013, 07:53:04 PM by rgray »

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« Reply #52 on: November 19, 2013, 07:51:51 PM »
It can be anything you have in your iPhoto folders.
There is a way to find it, but you have to view System/library, which the option to view it has been taken out fairly recently. Can change it back ere, but it might not be easy, as Im reading some hacks.

I am rather upset with what is going on, I should have bought a new Mac for my grandson and kept the 2 year old one for myself.  But from Googling stuff, there might be a way to reinstate the goodies which have been taken out.

Its time we walk Lilly, and head to bed, but I think by viewing my video that you see what I am taking about.

Googled it, here ya go, much better video, than I did here in the dark with my iPhone. Look and you will SEE what I am taking about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTb-XDA6LbY

Im signing off now, and a big disgusted with losing some of the old goodies.

Just before I go, hey Tacit, give us a bit of info on this.
« Last Edit: November 19, 2013, 07:53:27 PM by jcarter »

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« Reply #53 on: November 19, 2013, 08:01:40 PM »
Oh I remember the mosaic feature very well.....  It was/is brilliant but it  sure used computer horsepower!!  It would have the fans whirring in minutes after starting it up....
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« Reply #54 on: November 19, 2013, 08:24:16 PM »
QUOTE(rgray @ Nov 19 2013, 10:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh I remember the mosaic feature very well.....  It was/is brilliant but it  sure used computer horsepower!!  It would have the fans whirring in minutes after starting it up....


Ok folks...deep breath.

1. Mavericks is not a disaster (it isn't - really. There are a few issues - most of them are solvable.)
2. A missing screensaver option is not a dealbreaker.

Ok...now. About that missing option.

It's been gone for a while - it wasn't Mavericks that made it disappear, it was gone in Mountain Lion too. I HAVE both Mavericks (on this Retina) and ML (on my Mac Pro.) I guarantee you, the Mosaic option is NOT THERE on either. Sorry, but it's gone. And I doubt it's coming back. And attempts to add it back into Mavericks with the files from a previous OS weren't successful, Jane.

See: https://discussions.apple.com/message/23714619#23714619

As for what Jim is looking at - he's posted screen shots of what looks to me exactly like Mavericks. And rgray, you don't need to have Aperture or iPhoto - you simply need to have some photos - in a folder. See the last item? "Choose Folder"? Pick a folder of photos - and voila.

So...any other pressing questions?

Jane - if you're looking for your Library folder, Apple put the ability to make it visible back into the OS. See: http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/mav...-folder-visible
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« Reply #55 on: November 19, 2013, 08:49:51 PM »
QUOTE(Paddy @ Nov 19 2013, 09:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok...now. About that missing option.

It's been gone for a while - it wasn't Mavericks that made it disappear, it was gone in Mountain Lion too. I HAVE both Mavericks (on this Retina) and ML (on my Mac Pro.) I guarantee you, the Mosaic option is NOT THERE on either.

I am aware of all that, but mosaic was fun and a brilliant demonstration  of the art of frivolous coding...

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As for what Jim is looking at - he's posted screen shots of what looks to me exactly like Mavericks. And rgray, you don't need to have Aperture or iPhoto - you simply need to have some photos - in a folder. See the last item? "Choose Folder"? Pick a folder of photos - and voila.

The question is over the submenu not over the Preference Pane.  Prior to Mavericks (or as some say, Maver-yucchhs) you could address directly iPhoto events/albums directly with iPhoto '09, no need to arrange in a separate folder, but I suspect this is an issue of me having iPhoto '09 (v. 8.1.2) and XBD having v 9.5
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So...any other pressing questions?


You mean besides Mail rules working seemingly at random (lots around the web about this) and the meandering desktop icons........   Stay tuned.....  whistling.gif

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« Reply #56 on: November 19, 2013, 09:35:40 PM »
QUOTE(rgray @ Nov 19 2013, 10:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Paddy @ Nov 19 2013, 09:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok...now. About that missing option.

It's been gone for a while - it wasn't Mavericks that made it disappear, it was gone in Mountain Lion too. I HAVE both Mavericks (on this Retina) and ML (on my Mac Pro.) I guarantee you, the Mosaic option is NOT THERE on either.

I am aware of all that, but mosaic was fun and a brilliant demonstration  of the art of frivolous coding...

QUOTE
As for what Jim is looking at - he's posted screen shots of what looks to me exactly like Mavericks. And rgray, you don't need to have Aperture or iPhoto - you simply need to have some photos - in a folder. See the last item? "Choose Folder"? Pick a folder of photos - and voila.

The question is over the submenu not over the Preference Pane.  Prior to Mavericks (or as some say, Maver-yucchhs) you could address directly iPhoto events/albums directly with iPhoto '09, no need to arrange in a separate folder, but I suspect this is an issue of me having iPhoto '09 (v. 8.1.2) and XBD having v 9.5
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So...any other pressing questions?


You mean besides Mail rules working seemingly at random (lots around the web about this) and the meandering desktop icons........   Stay tuned.....  whistling.gif


As for the Mail rules not working - I've got a whole lot of them, and they seem to be working fine. Mine are entirely aimed at spam control however, so if you're talking about other rules not working, then there do appear to be a few people out there still having various issues, even after the Nov. 8 Mail update. See: http://tidbits.com/article/14287

Meandering/missing desktop icons is a new one to me (well, since your post) - from what I can see, some have managed to resolve it, some not. So...it's a lot like any other OS 10.x update; a few issues - but for the most part nothing that is utterly universal. Every single update has had a few people screaming "OS 10.x broke my Mac!!!" - and then whatever it is gets resolved and the screaming dies down...until it happens all over again with the next release. wink.gif

The Pages 5 fiasco is not, strictly speaking, part of Mavericks. It IS a disaster if you were using Pages 4.3 and made the mistake of updating - no doubt about it, but at least in that case, you can usually back right out of it fairly easily. Apple blundered big time with it - much as they did with Final Cut X, but time will tell if they fix it enough to make it useful again. I don't know why they did it the way they did, though I've seen a lot of rumours 'round the web suggesting that Apple employees don't use Pages themselves, so therefore don't really understand what people use it for. That seems like a bit of a stretch as explanations go, frankly.
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« Reply #57 on: November 20, 2013, 06:22:24 AM »
My mail works fine, Pages I have not tried yet.
So the only 2 things that I need to resolve is the icon picture thing, and the Apple guy said that would be fixed in an upcoming update.
Oh, just checked to see if the Visualizer was still here in iTunes, and it is.

And the Mosaic issue, Ive not asked about yet, as I want to wait before I call them, for something not quite so frivoulous.  Though it sure was fun. I turned the lights off in the room when some guests were here, and in total darkness(no light pollution here), they were awed by my screensaver Mosaics running on both my pre-Lion Macs side by side. Chose pictures of our place in Maine, which they were familiar with.

Oh, well, we are missing the side vent windows on our newer vehicles, but still have them on our big Ford pickup, so you lose some, and you win some,,,,,,,

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« Reply #58 on: November 20, 2013, 06:36:50 AM »
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......and the Apple guy said that would be fixed in an upcoming update.


The usual Mac rumour mills say that 10.9.1 is already being 'seeded' to developers..... whistling.gif

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« Reply #59 on: November 20, 2013, 07:03:26 AM »
That will be nice, hope they fix the icon thing.

Wish they would bring the Mosaic back, but thats probably asking too much.